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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Hu Tao <hutao@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	Bandan Das <bsd@redhat.com>,
	gaowanlong@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/14] vl: handle "-device dimm"
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:31:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E52112.3010803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130716121901.157d7e85@nial.usersys.redhat.com>

Il 16/07/2013 12:19, Igor Mammedov ha scritto:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:19:48 +0200
> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> Il 16/07/2013 03:27, Hu Tao ha scritto:
>>>> I think it's the same.  One "-numa mem" option = one "-device dimm"
>>>> option; both define one range.  Unused memory ranges may remain if you
>>>> stumble upon a unusable range such as the PCI window.  For example two
>>>> "-numa mem,size=2G" options would allocate memory from 0 to 2G and from
>>>> 4 to 6G.
>>>
>>> So we can drop -dimm if we agree on -numa mem?
>>
>> Yes, the point of the "-numa mem" proposal was to avoid the concept of a
>> "partially initialized device" that you had for DIMMs.
> I've though -numa mem was for mapping initial memory to numa nodes.
> It seem wrong to use it for representing dimm device and also limiting
> possible hotplugged regions to specified at startup ranges.

It's not for DIMM devices, it is for reserving areas of the address
space for hot-plugged RAM.  DIMM hotplug is done with "device_add dimm"
(and you can also use "-numa mem,populated=no,... -device dimm,..." to
start a VM with hot-unpluggable memory).

> we can leave -numa for initial memory mapping and manage of the mapping
> of hotpluggable regions with -device dimm,node=X,size=Y.
> 
> It that case command line -device dimm will provide a fully initialized
> dimm device usable at startup (but hot-unplugable) and
>   (monitor) device_add dimm,,node=X,size=Y
> would serve hot-plug case.
> 
> That way arbitrary sized dimm could be hot-pluged without specifying them
> at startup, like it's done on bare-metal.

But the memory ranges need to be specified at startup in the ACPI
tables, and that's what "-numa mem" is for.

> In addition command line -device would be used in migration case to describe
> already hot-plugged dimms on target.

Yep.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-16 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-26  9:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/14] ACPI memory hotplug Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 01/14] qapi: make visit_type_size fallback to v->type_int() Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 02/14] Add SIZE type to qdev properties Hu Tao
2013-07-08  9:37   ` Andreas Färber
2013-07-12  1:27     ` Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 03/14] qemu-option: export parse_option_number Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 04/14] Implement dimm device abstraction Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 05/14] vl: handle "-device dimm" Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:46   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-27  5:08     ` Wanlong Gao
2013-06-27  6:55       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-09 16:53         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-07-12  2:39           ` Hu Tao
2013-07-14 16:58             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16  1:26               ` Hu Tao
2013-07-15 17:05         ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-07-15 17:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-15 17:20             ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-07-16  1:27             ` Hu Tao
2013-07-16  6:19               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16  7:27                 ` Hu Tao
2013-07-16 10:22                   ` Igor Mammedov
2013-07-16 10:19                 ` Igor Mammedov
2013-07-16 10:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-07-16 12:00                     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-07-16 12:17                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 06/14] acpi_piix4 : Implement memory device hotplug registers Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 07/14] acpi_ich9 " Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 08/14] memory: record below_4g_mem_size, above_4g_mem_size Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 09/14] memory controller: initialize dram controller Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/14] pc: Add dimm paravirt SRAT info Hu Tao
2013-07-10 10:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-07-11  5:13     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-07-11  8:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-07-12  1:33         ` Hu Tao
2013-07-14  5:47           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 11/14] Introduce paravirt interface QEMU_CFG_PCI_WINDOW Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 12/14] Implement "info memory" and "query-memory" Hu Tao
2013-06-28 20:27   ` Eric Blake
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 13/14] balloon: update with hotplugged memory Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 14/14] Implement dimm-info Hu Tao
2013-06-28 20:28   ` Eric Blake
2013-06-26  9:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/7] support for ACPI memory hotplug Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:14   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/7] Add ACPI_EXTRACT_DEVICE* macros Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/7] Add SSDT memory device support Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 3/7] acpi-dsdt: Implement functions for memory hotplug Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 4/7] set psize to 0 when romfile_loadfile failed Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 5/7] acpi: generate hotplug memory devices Hu Tao
2013-07-12 10:07     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-06-26  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 6/7] q35: Add memory hotplug handler Hu Tao
2013-06-26  9:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 7/7] pci: Use paravirt interface for pcimem_start and pcimem64_start Hu Tao
2013-07-15 20:11     ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-07-07  8:36   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/7] support for ACPI memory hotplug Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-07-08  9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 00/14] " Andreas Färber
2013-07-12  1:30   ` Hu Tao
2013-07-14 16:56   ` Paolo Bonzini

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