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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, hbrock@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	rjones@redhat.com, imain@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] block: replace in_use with refcnt_soft and refcnt_hard
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:26:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E68D6B.60102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1374054136-28741-2-git-send-email-famz@redhat.com>

Il 17/07/2013 11:42, Fam Zheng ha scritto:
> Introduce refcnt_soft (soft reference) and refcnt_hard (hard reference)
> to BlockDriverState, since in_use mechanism cannot provide proper
> management of lifecycle when a BDS is referenced in multiple places
> (e.g. pointed to by another bs's backing_hd while also used as a block
> job device, in the use case of image fleecing).
> 
> The original in_use case is considered a "hard reference" in this patch,
> where the bs is busy and should not be used in other tasks that require
> a hard reference. (However the interface doesn't force this, caller
> still need to call bdrv_in_use() to check by itself.).
> 
> A soft reference is implemented but not used yet. It will be used in
> following patches to manage the lifecycle together with hard reference.
> 
> If bdrv_ref() is called on a BDS, it must be released by exactly the
> same numbers of bdrv_unref() with the same "soft/hard" type, and never
> call bdrv_delete() directly. If the BDS is only used locally (unnamed),
> bdrv_ref/bdrv_unref can be skipped and just use bdrv_delete().

Pardon the stupid question: why do we need a "soft" reference?  We have
these behaviors:

- a sync:'none' backup job doesn't stop until cancelled

- cancelling or completing the job closes the target device, which in
turn stops the NBD server and removes the need to access the source
device via backing_hd

- ejecting the source device cancels the job, which in turn also removes
the need to access the source device via backing_hd

blockdev-backup can sipmly add a reference to the DriveInfo of the
target that it receives.  backup_start has to choose between using
drive_put_ref and bdrv_delete on the target, and can do so using
drive_get_by_blockdev.

backup_start can also mark the target in use, so that drive_del is
prevented while backup_start is running.  After the target device is
closed (and not in_use anymore), all you need to do is invoke drive_del
to delete the BDS.

I don't dislike the series, but I wonder if all this machinery is
actually needed in 1.6.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-17 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-17  9:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/11] Point-in-time snapshot exporting over NBD Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 01/11] block: replace in_use with refcnt_soft and refcnt_hard Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:26   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-07-18  4:53     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:36   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-23 10:32     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 13:34       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-24  0:39         ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-24  7:35           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-24  7:44             ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-25  7:52               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 02/11] block: use refcnt for bs->backing_hd and bs->file Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 03/11] block: use refcnt for drive_init/drive_uninit Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 04/11] block: use refcnt for device attach/detach Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 05/11] migration: omit drive ref as we have bdrv_ref now Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 06/11] xen_disk: simplify blk_disconnect with refcnt Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 07/11] block: hold hard reference for backup/mirror target Fam Zheng
2013-07-23  9:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25  6:08     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-25  7:59       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 08/11] block: simplify bdrv_drop_intermediate Fam Zheng
2013-07-24 23:16   ` Jeff Cody
2013-07-25  1:34     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 09/11] block: add assertion to check refcount before deleting Fam Zheng
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 10/11] block: add option 'backing' to -drive options Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 12:58     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 13:13       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 13:48         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 14:16           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 15:09             ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 15:23               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-23 20:07               ` Ian Main
2013-07-22  6:07     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-23 19:57       ` Ian Main
2013-07-17  9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 11/11] qmp: add command 'blockdev-backup' Fam Zheng
2013-07-17 12:44   ` Eric Blake
2013-07-18  4:41     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-19 10:16       ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23 10:10         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-19 10:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 00/11] Point-in-time snapshot exporting over NBD Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23  1:52   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-23  6:35     ` Paolo Bonzini

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