From: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
ronnie sahlberg <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:29:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E7EDD0.6050001@kamp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51E7E035.3010702@redhat.com>
On 18.07.2013 14:31, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 18/07/2013 13:04, Peter Lieven ha scritto:
>>> But if you set BDRV_DISCARD_WRITE_ZEROES, then you always need a
>>> fallback to bdrv_write_zeroes. Why not just call bdrv_write_zeroes to
>>> begin with? That's why extending bdrv_write_zeroes is preferable.
>> In this case wo do not need a flag to the function at all. If the
>> driver sets bdi->write_zeroes_w_discard = 1 then bdrv_write_zeroes
>> can use bdrv_discard to write zeroes and the driver has to
>> ensure that all is zero afterwards.
> Peter, you removed exactly the part of the email where I explained the
> wrong part of your reasoning:
>
> you cannot do that [discard in bdrv_write_zeroes] unconditionally.
> Some operations can use it, some cannot. Think of SCSI disk
> emulation: it must not discard is WRITE SAME is sent without the
> UNMAP bit!
>
>> If the driver would have a better method of writing zeroes than
>> discard it simply should not set bdi->write_zeroes_w_discard = 1.
> If the driver had a better method of writing zeroes than discard, it
> simply should ignore the BDRV_MAY_UNMAP (or BDRV_MAY_DISCARD) flag in
> its bdrv_write_zeros implementation.
ok, but this would require an individual patch in every driver, wouldn't it.
i am ok with that.
the BDRV_MAY_DISCARD flag is at the end a hint if the driver can optimize
writing zeroes by a discard or if real zeroes should be written e.g. to
sanitize the device?
talking for iscsi:
bdrv->discard can remain to use UNMAP and silently fail if lbpu == 0.
bdrv->write_zeroes will use writesame16 and set the unmap flag only if BDRV_MAY_DISCARD == 1 and BDRV_O_UNMAP == 1 and lbprz == 1.
in case lbpws == 0 it will return -ENOSUP.
Correct?
Peter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-18 13:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-15 10:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: add discard_zeroes and max_unmap to BlockDriverInfo Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] iscsi: add .bdrv_get_info Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] block/raw: " Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 5:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 8:46 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 9:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:21 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:27 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 10:31 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:19 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:21 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 15:54 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-17 16:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 16:31 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-17 17:02 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 17:48 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 20:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 9:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18 10:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 10:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18 10:44 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 10:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 11:04 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 12:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 13:29 ` Peter Lieven [this message]
2013-07-18 13:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 14:09 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 14:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 14:32 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 14:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 18:43 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 18:54 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 19:28 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 5:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-19 6:08 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 13:25 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-19 13:49 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 14:00 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-19 14:02 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 13:58 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 13:55 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-12 8:52 ` Peter Lieven
2013-09-12 8:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-12 9:03 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:09 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 9:21 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 10:22 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 10:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 11:18 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 11:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 11:40 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 11:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:23 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:40 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:18 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:46 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 15:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 16:53 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:01 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 5:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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