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From: Wenchao Xia <xiawenc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: famz@redhat.com
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	dietmar@proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] export internal snapshot by qemu-nbd
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 11:26:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51ECA679.9040700@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130722021057.GA25622@T430s.nay.redhat.com>

于 2013-7-22 10:10, Fam Zheng 写道:
> On Fri, 07/19 17:03, Wenchao Xia wrote:
>> 于 2013-7-18 13:43, Stefan Hajnoczi 写道:
>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:03:51PM +0800, Wenchao Xia wrote:
>>>> This series allow user to read internal snapshot's contents without qemu-img
>>>> convert. Another purpose is that, when qemu is online and have taken an
>>>> internal snapshot, let user invoke qemu-nbd to do any thing on it except write.
>>>
>>> I agree with Eric and Kevin that we cannot access image files while QEMU
>>> has them open.
>>>
>>> A bit more detail about using the run-time NBD server to do this safely:
>>>
>>> Internal snapshots are not first-class block layer objects today.  They
>>> are not BlockDriverStates, instead you must access their data through
>>> bdrv_snapshot_goto() or bdrv_snapshot_load_tmp().
>>>
>>    Also cc to Fam Zheng an Kevin:
>>    I think BlockDriverStates modification, is based on a more basic
>> question: does qcow2's data structure on disk, allow multiple snapshot
>> reader, while one active writer, without lock? I think the modification
>> showed above, already said "yes" to this question. If yes, just
>> create a new BlockDriverStates, we should say yes in spec.
>>    I wonder how vmdk allow direct snapshot access by VixDiskLib 1.1,
>> without network expense on host, it should be the format said support
>> of it.
>>
> Is the VMDK snapshot internal? Which subformat of VMDK do you mean here?
>
> Thanks.
>
   Rechecked VMDK's doc, guess it is using backing chain. Still, It helps
if internal snapshot can do similar things.

-- 
Best Regards

Wenchao Xia

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-22  3:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-17 14:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] export internal snapshot by qemu-nbd Wenchao Xia
2013-07-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] snapshot: distinguish id and name in load_tmp Wenchao Xia
2013-07-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] qemu-nbd: support internal snapshot export Wenchao Xia
2013-07-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] qemu-nbd: add doc for " Wenchao Xia
2013-07-26  8:11   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-29  1:57     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-29  7:39       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-iotests: add 057 internal snapshot export with qemu-nbd case Wenchao Xia
2013-07-17 14:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] export internal snapshot by qemu-nbd Eric Blake
2013-07-17 15:21   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18  2:28     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-18  7:15       ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-19  6:29   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-19  8:20     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-22  5:20   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-18  5:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-19  9:03   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-19  9:19     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-19 10:02       ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-22  2:10     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-22  3:26       ` Wenchao Xia [this message]
2013-07-25  2:30 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-25  8:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-26  2:23     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-26  8:20       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-29  2:05         ` Wenchao Xia

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