From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Liu Ping Fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:45:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F647D8.5060600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130729085840.GC3721@dhcp-200-207.str.redhat.com>
Il 29/07/2013 10:58, Kevin Wolf ha scritto:
> Am 26.07.2013 um 10:43 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 07:53:33PM +0100, Alex Bligh wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> --On 25 July 2013 14:32:59 +0200 Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I would happily at a QEMUClock of each type to AioContext. They are after
>>>>> all pretty lightweight.
>>>>
>>>> What's the point of adding tones of QEMUClock instances? Considering
>>>> proper abstraction, how are they different for each AioContext? Will
>>>> they run against different clock sources, start/stop at different times?
>>>> If the answer is "they have different timer list", then fix this
>>>> incorrect abstraction.
>>>
>>> Even if I fix the abstraction, there is a question of whether it is
>>> necessary to have more than one timer list per AioContext, because
>>> the timer list is fundamentally per clock-source. I am currently
>>> just using QEMU_CLOCK_REALTIME as that's what the block drivers normally
>>> want. Will block drivers ever want timers from a different clock source?
>>
>> block.c and block/qed.c use vm_clock because block drivers should not do
>> guest I/O while the vm is stopped. This is especially true during live
>> migration where it's important to hand off the image file from the
>> source host to the destination host with good cache consistency. The
>> source host is not allowed to modify the image file anymore once the
>> destination host has resumed the guest.
>>
>> Block jobs use rt_clock because they aren't considered guest I/O.
>
> But considering your first paragraph, why is it safe to let block jobs
> running while we're migrating? Do we really do that? It sounds unsafe to
> me.
I think we should cancel them (synchronously) before the final
bdrv_drain_all().
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-29 10:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-21 8:42 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/8] timer: associate alarm_timer with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-21 8:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/8] timer: pick out timer list info from QemuClock Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/8] timer: make timers_state static Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-22 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-trivial] " Michael Tokarev
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/8] timer: protect timers_state with lock Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-22 6:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 5/8] timer: associate timer with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 6/8] timer: run timers on aio_poll Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 9:55 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-23 2:56 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 14:22 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 7/8] block: associate BlockDriverState with AioContext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 8:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 8/8] block: enable throttle with aiocontext Liu Ping Fan
2013-07-21 9:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Alex Bligh
2013-07-22 4:38 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-22 6:28 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-23 2:51 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-25 11:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-22 9:40 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-22 10:18 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 2:53 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-23 10:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 1:28 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 6:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 7:31 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 7:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:01 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 8:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:37 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 11:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:30 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 7:43 ` liu ping fan
2013-07-24 7:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-24 8:06 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-24 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2a] [RFC 8/7 (really)] Add prctl(PR_SET_TIMERSLACK, 1, ...) to reduce timer slack Alex Bligh
2013-07-23 14:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] arm AioContext with its own timer stuff Alex Bligh
2013-07-25 11:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:21 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-25 12:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 12:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 12:48 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 13:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 13:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 13:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-25 14:01 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-25 12:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-25 18:53 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-26 8:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-26 9:08 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-26 9:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-29 8:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-29 10:22 ` Alex Bligh
2013-07-29 10:45 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-07-31 9:02 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-26 10:05 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-07-26 19:29 ` Alex Bligh
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