From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36997) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6fqP-0006Fs-5K for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:54:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6fqI-0001jZ-VB for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:54:29 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:20601) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6fqI-0001jG-Nh for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:54:22 -0400 Message-ID: <5200E3E9.2050605@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:54:17 +0200 From: Gerd Hoffmann MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1970367422.9695773.1375718517492.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <20130805161833.GA4244@redhat.com> <51FFD6CE.5090302@redhat.com> <20130805182628.GC4244@redhat.com> <20130806072152.GK10891@redhat.com> <20130806083309.GA11051@redhat.com> <20130806083625.GF8218@redhat.com> <20130806092148.GC11051@redhat.com> <20130806093247.GL8218@redhat.com> <20130806101953.GC13680@redhat.com> <20130806104442.GR8218@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20130806104442.GR8218@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gleb Natapov Cc: Marcel Apfelbaum , seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Paolo Bonzini , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?eas_F=E4rber?= Hi, > And what are the rules that govern device exclusion from -nodefaults > list? Why -nodefaults does not create empty machine? "qemu -nodefaults" should give you just cpu + northbridge + southbridge. "qemu" should give you a usable virtual machine, so qemu adds some optional devices which are (or used to be) standard in a pc: floppy, cdrom, serial port, parallel port, vga card, nic. Sometimes things are a bit odd for historical reasons: USB controllers are only present in case you ask for them via '-usb' or add them via '-device', even though they are part of the southbridge. vmport is there unconditionally. And I'd rather make that one configurable instead of adding more hard-coded devices. cheers, Gerd