From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40076) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6fyA-0001ul-6r for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:02:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6fy4-0005ug-4Y for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:02:30 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:39266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6fy3-0005uY-Tu for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:02:24 -0400 Message-ID: <5200E5C9.5040203@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:02:17 +0200 From: Gerd Hoffmann MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51FFD6CE.5090302@redhat.com> <20130805182628.GC4244@redhat.com> <20130806072152.GK10891@redhat.com> <20130806083309.GA11051@redhat.com> <20130806083625.GF8218@redhat.com> <20130806092148.GC11051@redhat.com> <20130806093247.GL8218@redhat.com> <5200D15E.4030102@suse.de> <20130806110035.GS8218@redhat.com> <5200DCC5.2040603@suse.de> <20130806120005.GW8218@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20130806120005.GW8218@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [SeaBIOS] [PATCH] don't expose pvpanic device in the UI List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gleb Natapov Cc: minyard@acm.org, Marcel Apfelbaum , seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" , Paolo Bonzini , =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBGw6RyYmVy?= Hi, >> My point was, there may be alternative, non-PV implementations to suck >> such information out of a guest, IPMI being one example of a management >> interface that exists for physical servers. So it's not necessarily >> black-or-white, but choices similar to virtio vs. IDE vs. AHCI vs. SCSI. >> > pvpanic not meant to replace IPMI though. You probably don't want use both though, and if you want to pick one of the two you need a way to turn off pvpanic. cheers, Gerd