From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36514) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6jUI-0001OU-MA for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:48:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6jU7-0003ID-V3 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:47:54 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]:57451) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V6jU7-0003Ht-PU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:47:43 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hj13so2868741wib.5 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <52011A98.6090104@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:47:36 +0200 From: Paolo Bonzini MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <878v0ehmun.fsf@elfo.elfo> In-Reply-To: <878v0ehmun.fsf@elfo.elfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for 2013-08-06 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: quintela@redhat.com Cc: qemu-devel qemu-devel , KVM devel mailing list On 08/06/2013 05:15 PM, Juan Quintela wrote: > * pvpanic > - was added by default in 1.5, this might have been too rash: > - might change guest behaviour if guest is set to reboot on panic Interesting, but it looks like either a feature or a driver bug. > - might cause slightly annoying warnings/queries from device > manager > - generally somewhat inelegant/non-symmetrical, libvirt > developers prefer "no magic devices" > - conclusions: > - for -M 1.6, will change QEMU don't add by default, teach libvirt to add > with -device pvpanic This just moves the problem to a layer where it's harder to fix it. It will just appear to work because no one will use pvpanic, which is not a solution. Paolo