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From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 18:24:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5203C62C.2040303@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r4e4p4wj.fsf@codemonkey.ws>

Am 08.08.2013 17:40, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
> Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> writes:
>> Am 08.08.2013 15:31, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>> We have a mechanism to do weak functions via stubs/.  I think it would
>>> be better to do cpu_get_byteswap() as a stub function and then overload
>>> it in the ppc64 code.
>>
>> If this as your name indicates is a per-CPU function then it should go
>> into CPUClass. Interesting question is, what is virtio supposed to do if
>> we have two ppc CPUs, one is Big Endian, the other is Little Endian.
> 
> PPC64 is big endian.  AFAIK, there is no such thing as a little endian
> PPC64 processor.
> 
> This is just a processor mode where loads/stores are byte lane swapped.
> Hence the name 'cpu_get_byteswap'.  It's just asking whether the
> load/stores are being swapped or not.

Exactly, just read it as "is in ... Endian mode". On the CPUs I am more
familiar with (e.g., 970), this used to be controlled via an MSR bit,
which as CPUPPCState::msr exists per CPUState. I did not check on real
hardware, but from the QEMU code this would allow for the mixed-endian
scenario described above.

> At least for PPC64, it's not possible to enable/disable byte lane
> swapping for individual CPUs.  It's done through a system-wide hcall.

What is offending me is only the following: If we name it
cpu_get_byteswap() as proposed by you, then its first argument should be
a CPUState *cpu. Its value would be read from the derived type's state,
such as the MSR bit in the code path that you wanted duplicated. The
function implementing that register-reading would be a hook in CPUClass,
with a default implementation in qom/cpu.c rather than a fallback in
stubs/. To access CPUClass, CPUState cannot be NULL, as brought up by
Stefano for cpu_do_unassigned_access(); not following that pattern
prevents mixing CPU architectures, which my large refactorings have
partially been about. Cf. my guest-memory-dump refactoring.

If it is just some random global value, then please don't call it
cpu_*(). Since sPAPR is not a target of its own, I don't see how/where
you want to implement that hcall query as per-target function either,
that might rather call for a QEMUMachine hook?

I don't care or argue about byte lanes here, I am just trying to keep
API design consistent and not regressing on the way to heterogeneous
emulation.

Regards,
Andreas

> FWIW, I think most bi-endian architectures are this way too so I think
> this is equally applicable to ARM.  Peter, is that right?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori
> 
>> We'd need to check current_cpu then, which for Xen is always NULL.
>>
>> Andreas

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-08 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08  5:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] Virtio support for endian-curious guests Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] virtio: allow byte swapping for vring and config access Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 14:28     ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-08 15:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:45         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-08-08 16:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:14             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:25               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:30                 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09  2:58             ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  4:39               ` Anton Blanchard
2013-08-09  8:05               ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-09 14:16               ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 15:48         ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 16:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08 16:24         ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2013-08-09  7:35           ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:42             ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-12  7:49               ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-12  0:28               ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-12  0:49                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-09 15:15             ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  0:08       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09  7:00       ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:24         ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-09  6:40     ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-09 14:10       ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-11 23:46         ` Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] target-ppc: ppc64 targets can be either endian Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] hw/net/virtio-net: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] hw/net/virtio-balloon: use virtio wrappers to access page frame numbers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] hw/block/virtio-blk: use virtio wrappers to access headers Rusty Russell
2013-08-08  9:57   ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-08 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] hw/scsi/virtio-scsi: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:33   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] hw/char/virtio-serial-bus: " Rusty Russell
2013-08-08 13:34   ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-08  5:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] patch virtio-serial-biendian.patch Rusty Russell

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