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From: Wenchao Xia <xiawenc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 09/30] aio / timers: Add QEMUTimerListGroup and helper functions
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:53:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52088652.3010201@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12227494-C6D2-467E-B7B3-6765F78EEB44@alex.org.uk>

于 2013-8-10 19:05, Alex Bligh 写道:
> Paolo,
>
> On 9 Aug 2013, at 15:59, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
>> It's not papering over anything.
>>
>> Timers right now are provided by the event loop.  If you make
>> AioContexts have timers, you can have a new AioContext for the timers
>> that the event loop handles before your patches.
>>
>> It's not related to having two nested event loops.  The nested event
>> loops have the problem that timers do not run in them, but it's also a
>> feature---because you know exactly what code runs in the nested event
>> loop and what doesn't.  Using an entirely distinct event loop preserves
>> the feature.
>
> I've submitted a first cut as a separate patch just to see whether
> it works:
>    http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-08/msg01412.html
>
> It passes 'make check' anyway.
>
> I didn't wrap TimerListGroup into a separate struct for reasons
> I'll set out below.
>
> I think there are two ways to go here:
>
> 1. Wrap TimerListGroup into a separate struct, leave all the
>     TimerListGroup functions in. This probably makes it easier if
>     (for instance) we decided to get rid of AioContexts entirely
>     and make them g_source subclasses (per Wenchao Xia).
>
   I have a quick view of this series, but not very carefully since
it is quite long.:) I have replied with Paolo's comments on my
RFC thread. Personally I like g_source sub class, which make code
clear, but let's discuss first if the direction is right in that mail.


> 2. Remove the TimerListGroup thing entirely and just have
>     an array of TimerLists of size QEMU_CLOCK_MAX. I can
>     leave the things that iterate that array inside qemu_timer.c
>     (which I'd rather do for encapsulation). Part of the
>     problem with the old timer code was that there were (in
>     my opinion) far too many files that were working out what
>     to iterate, and I really don't want to reintroduce that.
>
> Despite the fact we both dislike the name TimerListGroup, I
> think the way to go here is (1). (2) does not really save lines
> of code (certainly not compiled instructions) - it's main saving
> is removing a pile of commenting from include/qemu/timer.h,
> which makes things more opaque.
>
> I also think there may well be a use for something that wants
> to use timers but not AioContext (I am thinking for instance
> of a thread that does not do block IO). This permits that,
> but does not require it.
>
> WDYT?
>


-- 
Best Regards

Wenchao Xia

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-12  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-08 21:41 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 00/30] aio / timers: Add AioContext timers and use ppoll Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 01/30] aio / timers: Rename qemu_new_clock and expose clock types Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 02/30] aio / timers: add qemu-timer.c utility functions Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 03/30] aio / timers: Consistent treatment of disabled clocks for deadlines Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 04/30] aio / timers: add ppoll support with qemu_poll_ns Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 05/30] aio / timers: Add prctl(PR_SET_TIMERSLACK, 1, ...) to reduce timer slack Alex Bligh
2013-08-09  8:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-09 14:10     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 06/30] aio / timers: Make qemu_run_timers and qemu_run_all_timers return progress Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 07/30] aio / timers: Split QEMUClock into QEMUClock and QEMUTimerList Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:23     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:28       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 08/30] aio / timers: Untangle include files Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 09/30] aio / timers: Add QEMUTimerListGroup and helper functions Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:02   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:27     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:35       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:47         ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:59           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-10 11:05             ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-11  7:53               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-11  8:29                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-12 17:27                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-12 17:32                     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-12  6:53               ` Wenchao Xia [this message]
2013-08-12  7:08                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 15:09         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-09 15:15           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-10  3:27     ` liu ping fan
2013-08-10  8:38       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 10/30] aio / timers: Add QEMUTimerListGroup to AioContext Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 11/30] aio / timers: Add a notify callback to QEMUTimerList Alex Bligh
2013-08-09  9:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-09 14:16     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:28     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-10 11:13     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 12/30] aio / timers: aio_ctx_prepare sets timeout from AioContext timers Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:30     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:41       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:55         ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 13/30] aio / timers: Add aio_timer_new wrapper Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:06   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:32     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:36       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:51         ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:51           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:57             ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:58               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 22:57         ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-10  8:36           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 14/30] aio / timers: Convert aio_poll to use AioContext timers' deadline Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 15/30] aio / timers: Convert mainloop to use timeout Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 16/30] aio / timers: On timer modification, qemu_notify or aio_notify Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:08   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 17/30] aio / timers: Introduce new API qemu_timer_new and friends Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 18/30] aio / timers: Use all timerlists in icount warp calculations Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 19/30] aio / timers: Add documentation and new format calls Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 20/30] aio / timers: Remove alarm timers Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 21/30] aio / timers: Remove legacy qemu_clock_deadline & qemu_timerlist_deadline Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 22/30] aio / timers: Add qemu_clock_get_ms and qemu_clock_get_ms Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 23/30] aio / timers: Rearrange timer.h & make legacy functions call non-legacy Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 22:12   ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09  9:23   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-09 14:18     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:26       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 24/30] aio / timers: Remove main_loop_timerlist Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 25/30] aio / timers: Convert rtc_clock to be a QEMUClockType Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 26/30] aio / timers: convert block_job_sleep_ns and co_sleep_ns to new API Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 27/30] aio / timers: Add test harness for AioContext timers Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 28/30] aio / timers: Add scripts/switch-timer-api Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:34     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 10:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 14:35     ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 29/30] aio / timers: Switch entire codebase to the new timer API Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 30/30] aio / timers: Remove legacy interface Alex Bligh
2013-08-08 21:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv8 00/30] aio / timers: Add AioContext timers and use ppoll Alex Bligh
2013-08-09  8:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-09  8:24   ` liu ping fan
2013-08-09  8:33     ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-09 10:35   ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09  9:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-09 14:19   ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-09 14:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 10:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-09 11:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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