From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 00/31] aio / timers: Add AioContext timers and use ppoll
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:57:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <520A2D3D.7060201@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <781DC0DE-B781-45C0-9351-32925EF51BF9@alex.org.uk>
On 2013-08-13 14:44, Alex Bligh wrote:
>
> On 13 Aug 2013, at 13:22, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>
>> With tweaking I mean:
>>
>> bool aio_poll(AioContext *ctx, bool blocking,
>> void (*blocking_cb)(bool, void *),
>> void *blocking_cb_opaque);
>>
>> i.e. adding a callback that aio_poll will invoke before and right after
>> waiting for events/timeouts. This allows to drop/reacquire locks that
>> protect data structures used both by the timer thread and other threads
>> running the device model.
>
> That's interesting. I didn't give a huge amount of thought
> to thread extensibility (not least as the locking needed
> fixing first), but the model I had in my head was not that
> the locks were taken on exit from qemu_poll_ns and
> released on entry to it, but rather that the individual
> dispatch functions and timer functions called only took whatever
> locks they needed as and when they needed them. IE everything
> would already be unlocked prior to calling qemu_poll_ns.
> I suppose both would work.
Well, all the timer machinery requires some locking as well. So one
option is to add this to the core, the other - the one that I'm
following - is to push the locking to the timer users. The advantage of
the latter approach is that you can often reuse existing locks instead
of extending their number excessively, potentially causing ordering issues.
The locks to be reused are, or course, the BQL or device model locks,
like in my RTC scenario. Or think of a networking backend like slirp:
TCP timers could run under the same lock that is also protecting the
rest of a slirp instance state machine. Well, not sure we can gain a lot
by threading slirp, but the concept remains the same.
Jan
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-11 16:42 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 00/31] aio / timers: Add AioContext timers and use ppoll Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 01/31] aio / timers: Rename qemu_timer_* functions Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 02/31] aio / timers: Rename qemu_new_clock and expose clock types Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 03/31] aio / timers: add qemu-timer.c utility functions Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 04/31] aio / timers: Consistent treatment of disabled clocks for deadlines Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 05/31] aio / timers: add ppoll support with qemu_poll_ns Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 06/31] aio / timers: Add prctl(PR_SET_TIMERSLACK, 1, ...) to reduce timer slack Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 07/31] aio / timers: Make qemu_run_timers and qemu_run_all_timers return progress Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 08/31] aio / timers: Split QEMUClock into QEMUClock and QEMUTimerList Alex Bligh
2013-08-12 16:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-12 16:25 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-12 16:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-12 17:04 ` Richard Henderson
2013-08-12 17:25 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 09/31] aio / timers: Untangle include files Alex Bligh
2013-08-12 16:40 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-12 17:04 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-12 17:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 10/31] aio / timers: Add QEMUTimerListGroup and helper functions Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 11/31] aio / timers: Add QEMUTimerListGroup to AioContext Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 12/31] aio / timers: Add a notify callback to QEMUTimerList Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 13/31] aio / timers: aio_ctx_prepare sets timeout from AioContext timers Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 14/31] aio / timers: Add aio_timer_init & aio_timer_new wrappers Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 15/31] aio / timers: Convert aio_poll to use AioContext timers' deadline Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 16/31] aio / timers: Convert mainloop to use timeout Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 17/31] aio / timers: On timer modification, qemu_notify or aio_notify Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 18/31] aio / timers: Introduce new API timer_new and friends Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 19/31] aio / timers: Use all timerlists in icount warp calculations Alex Bligh
2013-08-15 12:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-15 12:37 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-15 18:31 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 20/31] aio / timers: Add documentation and new format calls Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 21/31] aio / timers: Remove alarm timers Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 22/31] aio / timers: Remove legacy qemu_clock_deadline & qemu_timerlist_deadline Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 23/31] aio / timers: Add qemu_clock_get_ms and qemu_clock_get_ms Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 24/31] aio / timers: Rearrange timer.h & make legacy functions call non-legacy Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 25/31] aio / timers: Remove main_loop_timerlist Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 26/31] aio / timers: Convert rtc_clock to be a QEMUClockType Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 27/31] aio / timers: convert block_job_sleep_ns and co_sleep_ns to new API Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 28/31] aio / timers: Add test harness for AioContext timers Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 29/31] aio / timers: Add scripts/switch-timer-api Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 30/31] aio / timers: Switch entire codebase to the new timer API Alex Bligh
2013-08-11 16:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 31/31] aio / timers: Remove legacy interface Alex Bligh
2013-08-13 12:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] [PATCHv10 00/31] aio / timers: Add AioContext timers and use ppoll Jan Kiszka
2013-08-13 12:44 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-13 12:57 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2013-08-13 13:12 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-13 13:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-13 13:39 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-13 13:45 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-13 13:56 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-13 14:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-13 14:26 ` Alex Bligh
2013-08-13 14:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-08-14 13:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-09-17 16:09 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-17 16:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-17 16:38 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-17 16:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2013-09-17 17:03 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-17 17:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-17 17:32 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-18 7:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-18 8:23 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-18 9:02 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-18 9:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-24 13:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-09-24 13:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-15 12:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-08-15 13:05 ` Alex Bligh
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