From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] powerpc: add PVR mask support
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 18:22:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <520D0042.1040502@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B793C966-5722-4448-92B6-AB677A6B79BC@suse.de>
Am 15.08.2013 17:58, schrieb Alexander Graf:
>
> On 15.08.2013, at 17:48, Andreas Färber wrote:
>
>> Am 15.08.2013 17:30, schrieb Alexander Graf:
>>>
>>> On 15.08.2013, at 17:11, Andreas Färber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 15.08.2013 15:12, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>>>> Everyone is talking past each other and no one is addressing the real
>>>>> problem. There are two distinct issues here:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) We have two ABIs that cannot be changed unless there's a very good
>>>>> reason to. Alexey's original patch breaks both. The guest ABI
>>>>> cannot change given a fixed command line.
>>>>>
>>>>> IOW, the exposed PVR value for -cpu POWER7 cannot change across
>>>>> versions of QEMU or when running on different hardware. This breaks
>>>>> live migration and save/resume.
>>>>>
>>>>> We also cannot break the command line interface. If the last version
>>>>> of QEMU supported -cpu POWER7_v2.1, then we must continue to support
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> 1a) How should -cpu 0xDEADBEEF or -cpu DEADBEEF behave.
>>>>
>>>> I expect it to error out as before
>>>> rather than applying the same fuzz/mask that -cpu host might.
>>>
>>> I actually think it'd make sense to apply the same fuzz/mask, don't you think?
>>
>> I think "-cpu host" has the semantics of give-me-what-the-host-has. But
>> -cpu 0xDEADBEEF is asking for PVR DEADBEEF and having it silently return
>> a guest-visible DEADBEBE is going to be undesired.
>
> -cpu host on 0xDEADBEEF should give us a 0xDEADBEEF cpu. -cpu 0xDEADBEEF should give us a 0xDEADBEEF cpu :).
Then we mustn't tweak translate_init.c:cpu_class_by_pvr() to return
deviating results! Which is what the change to
ppc_cpu_compare_class_pvr() is essentially resulting in if I am not
completely off track. And therefore my calling to handle this at a
higher level (KVM init), where the user's intentions are clear, rather
than to blur our internal API. Otherwise the _by_pvr() function would
need to create a new class or modify an existing one when the function
can't know what the function call was actually intended for.
Andreas
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-15 16:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-15 3:35 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] powerpc: add PVR mask support Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-15 5:21 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 5:44 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-15 6:03 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 6:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-15 6:39 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-15 13:33 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 15:11 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 15:30 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 15:48 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 15:58 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 16:22 ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2013-08-15 17:01 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 16:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-15 5:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-15 6:10 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 6:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-15 6:37 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 6:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [_R_F_C_ PATCH v2] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-15 6:57 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 7:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-15 7:55 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 8:06 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-15 8:45 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 10:52 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 11:03 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 11:48 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 11:59 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-19 17:13 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 13:55 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-15 14:47 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 15:29 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 15:43 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 15:51 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-15 16:08 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 16:17 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-16 0:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-16 0:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-16 0:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-08-19 17:34 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-16 8:07 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-19 4:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v4] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-26 13:04 ` Alexander Graf
2013-08-26 14:32 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-28 10:31 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-28 10:34 ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-15 14:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v3] " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2013-08-15 15:17 ` Alexander Graf
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