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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv3 6/9] s390x/diag: subcode to query device memory region
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 12:12:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <520ac822-df67-b33a-378f-a8f91a3bed2f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200727120930.7b8803e4.cohuck@redhat.com>

On 27.07.20 12:09, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:52:30 +0200
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 27.07.20 11:48, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:37:47 +0200
>>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> A guest OS that is aware of memory devices (placed into the device
>>>> memory region located in guest physical address space) has to know at least
>>>> the end address of the device memory region during boot, for example, to
>>>> prepare the kernel virtual address space accordingly (e.g., select page
>>>> table hierarchy). The device memory region is located above the SCLP
>>>> maximum storage increment.
>>>>
>>>> Let's provide a new diag500 subcode to query the location of the device
>>>> memory region under QEMU/KVM. This way, esp. Linux who's wants to support
>>>> virtio-based memory devices can query the location of this region and
>>>> derive the maximum possible PFN.
>>>>
>>>> Let's use a specification exception in case no such memory region
>>>> exists (e.g., maxmem wasn't specified, or on old QEMU machines). We'll
>>>> unlock this with future patches that prepare and instanciate the device
>>>> memory region.  
>>>
>>> Specification exception on old machines seems reasonable. But maybe
>>> newer machines can use a different return value for "no memory regions"?  
>>
>> Hm, I don't see any benefit to distinguish the two cases of "no device
>> memory region". Should the guest really care?
> 
> No idea, was just a random thought.
> 
>>
>> [...]
>>>
>>> (...)
>>>   
>>>> diff --git a/hw/s390x/s390-hypercall.h b/hw/s390x/s390-hypercall.h
>>>> index e6b958db41..1b179d7d99 100644
>>>> --- a/hw/s390x/s390-hypercall.h
>>>> +++ b/hw/s390x/s390-hypercall.h
>>>> @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
>>>>  #define DIAG500_VIRTIO_RESET           1 /* legacy */
>>>>  #define DIAG500_VIRTIO_SET_STATUS      2 /* legacy */
>>>>  #define DIAG500_VIRTIO_CCW_NOTIFY      3 /* KVM_S390_VIRTIO_CCW_NOTIFY */
>>>> +#define DIAG500_DEVICE_MEMORY_REGION   4  
>>>
>>> Regardless what we end up with, this needs to be specified
>>> somewhere(tm).
>>>   
>>
>> Yeah, there, we should also document the existing subcodes. What would
>> be the right place for this? The kernel feels somewhat wrong to me.
> 
> The still supported subcode 3 is properly specified in the virtio spec.
> That's not a good place for that new one, though.
> 
> QEMU is probably a better place than the kernel to specify stuff,
> although it's not really ideal, either. OTOH, do we ever expect other
> hypervisors to implement this new subcode?

cloud-hypervisor implements virtio-mem. If it were ever to support s390x
(guess it does not yet), it would also want to implement that one. But
then, it can just look at QEMU doc I guess :)


-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-27 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-24 14:37 [PATCH RFCv3 0/9] s390x: initial support for virtio-mem David Hildenbrand
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 1/9] s390x: move setting of maximum ram size to machine init David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27  9:13   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 2/9] s390x/diag: no need to check for PGM_PRIVILEGED in diag308 David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27  9:14   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 3/9] s390x: remove hypercall registration mechanism David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27  9:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-27  9:29     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27  9:48     ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 4/9] s390x: prepare for more diag500 hypercalls David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27  9:42   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-27 10:45     ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 5/9] s390x: rename s390-virtio-hcall* to s390-hypercall* David Hildenbrand
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 6/9] s390x/diag: subcode to query device memory region David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27  9:48   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-27  9:52     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27 10:09       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-27 10:12         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-07-27 11:15           ` Heiko Carstens
2020-07-27 12:02             ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-28  7:10               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-29  8:57                 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-29  9:37                   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-29  9:57                     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-29 10:13                       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 7/9] s390x: prepare device memory address space David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27  9:56   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-27  9:57     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 8/9] s390x: implement virtio-mem-ccw David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27  9:58   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-27 10:02     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27 10:11       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-24 14:37 ` [PATCH RFCv3 9/9] s390x: initial support for virtio-mem David Hildenbrand
2020-07-27 10:03   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-27 10:04     ` David Hildenbrand

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