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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, lersek@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/7] smbios: Set system manufacturer, product & version by default
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:22:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <521D34AB.5080700@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130827170444.GA29703@redhat.com>

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On 08/27/2013 11:04 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 03:18:34PM +0200, armbru@redhat.com wrote:
>> From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>>
>> Currently, we get SeaBIOS defaults: manufacturer Bochs, product Bochs,
>> no version.  Best SeaBIOS can do, but we can provide better defaults:
>> manufacturer QEMU, product & version taken from QEMUMachine desc and
>> name.
>>
>> Take care to do this only for new machine types, of course.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>> Reviewed-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
> 
> We can do this of course, but why is this better?
> It seems to expose new information to the guest
> for no reason, we just might come to regret it
> later if guests start implementing hacks keying
> off the version number.

Some guests (cough: some OEM builds of windows) already DO key off of
SMBIOS information to determine if they are running in a valid
environment.  Furthermore, making this change to qemu makes it easier to
decouple the strings being presented to guests by default; it's always
better to have a situation where changing just qemu works, instead of
having to patch both qemu and BIOS in tandem.

The choice of whether to present the different information MUST be tied
to machine types (we cannot change SMBIOS data without an explicit
change to a newer machine type, precisely _because_ there are guests
that base their licensing decisions on constancy of BIOS information).
But for a new machine type, presenting qemu as the machine type rather
than being stuck to a particular SeaBIOS build seems nicer.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-27 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-16 13:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/7] smbios cleanup & nicer defaults for type 1 armbru
2013-08-16 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/7] smbios: Normalize smbios_entry_add()'s error handling to exit(1) armbru
2013-08-16 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/7] smbios: Convert to QemuOpts armbru
2013-09-28 20:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-30  8:48     ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-16 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/7] smbios: Improve diagnostics for conflicting entries armbru
2013-08-16 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] smbios: Make multiple -smbios type= accumulate sanely armbru
2013-08-17 12:48   ` Eric Blake
2013-08-16 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/7] smbios: Factor out smbios_maybe_add_str() armbru
2013-08-16 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/7] vl: Set current_machine early armbru
2013-08-17 13:07   ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-19  9:35     ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-19 16:37       ` Andreas Färber
2013-08-20  9:09         ` Markus Armbruster
2013-08-16 13:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/7] smbios: Set system manufacturer, product & version by default armbru
2013-08-27 17:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-27 23:22     ` Eric Blake [this message]
2013-08-28  6:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-08-17 12:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/7] smbios cleanup & nicer defaults for type 1 Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-17 12:50   ` Eric Blake
2013-09-17 15:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-18 11:42   ` Markus Armbruster
2013-09-24  6:07     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-09-28 19:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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