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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Weil" <sw@weilnetz.de>,
	"Murilo Opsfelder Araujo" <muriloo@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Kotrasinski" <i.kotrasinsk@partner.samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 8/9] util/mmap-alloc: support RAM_NORESERVE via MAP_NORESERVE
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 20:01:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <522c672e-9c16-48ef-24a8-3687b5332b2a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210302175112.GN397383@xz-x1>

On 02.03.21 18:51, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 02:49:38PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> +#define OVERCOMMIT_MEMORY_PATH "/proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory"
>> +static bool map_noreserve_effective(int fd, bool shared)
>> +{
>> +#if defined(__linux__)
>> +    gchar *content = NULL;
>> +    const char *endptr;
>> +    unsigned int tmp;
>> +
>> +    /* hugetlbfs behaves differently */
>> +    if (qemu_fd_getpagesize(fd) != qemu_real_host_page_size) {
>> +        return true;
>> +    }
>> +
>> +    /* only private shared mappings are accounted (ignoring /dev/zero) */
>> +    if (fd != -1 && shared) {
>> +        return true;
>> +    }
>> +
>> +    if (g_file_get_contents(OVERCOMMIT_MEMORY_PATH, &content, NULL, NULL) &&
>> +        !qemu_strtoui(content, &endptr, 0, &tmp) &&
>> +        (!endptr || *endptr == '\n')) {
>> +        if (tmp == 2) {
>> +            error_report("Skipping reservation of swap space is not supported: "
>> +                         " \"" OVERCOMMIT_MEMORY_PATH "\" is \"2\"");
>> +            return false;
>> +        }
>> +        return true;
>> +    }
>> +    /* this interface has been around since Linux 2.6 */
>> +    error_report("Skipping reservation of swap space is not supported: "
>> +                 " Could not read: \"" OVERCOMMIT_MEMORY_PATH "\"");
>> +    return false;
>> +#else
>> +    return true;
>> +#endif
>> +}
> 
> I feel like this helper wants to fail gracefully for some conditions.  Could
> you elaborate one example and attach to the commit log?

Sure. The case is "/proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory == 2" (never overcommit)

MAP_NORESERVE is without effect and sparse memory regions are somewhat 
impossible.

> 
> I'm also wondering whether it would worth to check the global value.  Even if
> overcommit is globally disabled, do we (as an application process) need to care
> about it?  I think the MAP_NORESERVE would simply be silently ignored by the
> kernel and that seems to be design of it, otherwise would all apps who uses > MAP_NORESERVE would need to do similar things too?

Right, I want to catch the "gets silently ignored" part, because someone 
requested "reserved=off" (!default) but does not actually get what he 
asked for.

As one example, glibc manages heaps via:

a) Creating a new heap: mmap(PROT_NONE, MAP_NORESERVE) the maximum size, 
then mprotect(PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) the initial heap size. Even if 
MAP_NORESERVE is ignored, only !PROT_NONE memory ever gets committed 
("reserve swap space") in Linux.

b) Growing the heap via mprotect(PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) within the 
existing mmap. This will commit memory in case MAP_NORESERVE got ignored.

c) Shrinking the heap ("discard memory") via MADV_DONTNEED *unless* 
"/proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory == 2" - the only way to undo 
mprotect(PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) and to un-commit memory is by doing a 
mmap(PROT_NONE, MAP_FIXED) over the problematic region.

If you're interested, you can take a look at:

malloc/arena.c
sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/malloc-sysdep.h:check_may_shrink_heap()


Thanks!

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-02 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-09 13:49 [PATCH v1 0/9] RAM_NORESERVE, MAP_NORESERVE and hostmem "reserve" property David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] softmmu/physmem: drop "shared" parameter from ram_block_add() David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] util/mmap-alloc: factor out calculation of the pagesize for the guard page David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] util/mmap-alloc: factor out reserving of a memory region to mmap_reserve() David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] util/mmap-alloc: factor out activating of memory to mmap_activate() David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] softmmu/memory: pass ram_flags into qemu_ram_alloc_from_fd() David Hildenbrand
2021-03-02 17:17   ` Peter Xu
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] softmmu/memory: pass ram_flags into memory_region_init_ram_shared_nomigrate() David Hildenbrand
2021-03-02 17:17   ` Peter Xu
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] memory: introduce RAM_NORESERVE and wire it up in qemu_ram_mmap() David Hildenbrand
2021-03-02 17:32   ` Peter Xu
2021-03-02 19:02     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-02 20:54       ` Peter Xu
2021-03-02 20:58         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-03 11:35       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-03 11:37         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-03 12:12           ` Thomas Huth
2021-03-03 12:24             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-03 11:39         ` Thomas Huth
2021-03-03 11:41           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] util/mmap-alloc: support RAM_NORESERVE via MAP_NORESERVE David Hildenbrand
2021-03-02 17:51   ` Peter Xu
2021-03-02 19:01     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-03-02 21:44       ` Peter Xu
2021-03-03 10:14         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-03 17:05           ` Peter Xu
2021-03-04 16:15             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-09 13:49 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] hostmem: wire up RAM_NORESERVE via "reserve" property David Hildenbrand
2021-03-02 17:55   ` Peter Xu
2021-03-02 13:12 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] RAM_NORESERVE, MAP_NORESERVE and hostmem " David Hildenbrand

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