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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, famz@redhat.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, alex@alex.org.uk, vilanova@ac.upc.edu,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 5/8] module: implement module loading
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:30:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5236DDC7.1010908@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130916102131.GI6005@redhat.com>

Il 16/09/2013 12:21, Daniel P. Berrange ha scritto:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:18:54PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 16/09/2013 12:14, Daniel P. Berrange ha scritto:
>>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:09:47PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> Il 16/09/2013 11:51, Fam Zheng ha scritto:
>>>>> On Mon, 09/16 11:44, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>>> Il 16/09/2013 10:59, Daniel P. Berrange ha scritto:
>>>>>>>> The init function of dynamic module is no longer with
>>>>>>>> __attribute__((constructor)) as static linked version, and need to be
>>>>>>>> explicitly called once loaded. The function name is mangled with per
>>>>>>>> configure fingerprint as:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     init_$(date +%s$$$RANDOM)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this work for a module that calls module_init multiple times?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why should a module calls module_init, instead of the main function?
>>>>
>>>> I think you mean "why should a module calls register_module_init", and I
>>>> agree that with this patch a module will not call register_module_init.
>>>>
>>>> But a module is still using the module_init macro.
>>>>
>>>> With this patch, a module will not be able to use the module_init macro
>>>> twice.  I am not sure this is an acceptable limitation, especially if we
>>>> do not have a dependency system within modules and/or load them with
>>>> G_MODULE_LOCAL/RTLD_LOCAL.
>>>
>>> Why would a module ever want to use the module_init macro twice ?
>>
>> Because our coding standard is to have each source file do its own
>> one-time initialization, using static functions and an invocation of
>> module_init per source file.
> 
> Is there ever a case where two source files, each using module_init
> will be compiled into the same .so loadable module. Looking at the
> uses of block_init(), I don't see any obvious candidates for trouble,
> all uses look like they'd be going into separate .so files.

Without inter-module exports, all of SPICE probably would have to be in
a single .so file.  This includes spice-qemu-char.c and
hw/display/qxl.c, both of which use type_init.

If we use G_MODULE_GLOBAL as a primitive system for intermodule exports,
then indeed this is a much smaller problem, but then we need a
dependency system.  But I'm almost sure that Windows and maybe Darwin
lack support for the equivalent of G_MODULE_GLOBAL.

BTW, we need a buildbot for the static linking case, otherwise as
modules become more widespread, we'll have hard to detect bugs due to
duplicate symbols.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-16  6:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 0/8] Shared Library Module Support Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 1/8] ui/Makefile.objs: delete unnecessary cocoa.o dependency Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 2/8] make.rule: fix $(obj) to a real relative path Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 3/8] rule.mak: allow per object cflags and libs Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 4/8] build-sys: introduce common-obj-m and block-obj-m for DSO Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 5/8] module: implement module loading Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  8:59   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16  9:28     ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 22:16       ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-17  0:47         ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  9:44     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16  9:51       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 10:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 10:14           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 10:18             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 10:21               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 10:30                 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-09-16 11:29                   ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 11:33                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:46                       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 22:31                         ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-17  1:29                           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-17  5:40                             ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-18 11:45                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-18 14:44                                 ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-18 15:00                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-17  8:50                     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-09-16 10:57           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-09-16 11:00             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 22:38               ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-16 10:24         ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 10:38           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:00             ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 11:04               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 11:27                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 11:08               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:30                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-17  8:26             ` Wenchao Xia
2013-09-16 10:43           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 11:05   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 12:36     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-09-17  5:55       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-17  6:33         ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-17  6:40           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 6/8] Makefile: install modules with "make install" Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 7/8] .gitignore: ignore module related files (dll, so, mo) Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 8/8] block: convert block drivers linked with libs to modules Fam Zheng

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