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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, famz@redhat.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, vilanova@ac.upc.edu, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 5/8] module: implement module loading
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:38:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5236DFBE.2000801@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3AD10BC4-9EDC-4FDA-BC0D-D1380C5904C2@alex.org.uk>

Il 16/09/2013 12:24, Alex Bligh ha scritto:
> At risk of heresy, can I suggest a rather simpler scheme that requires
> a total of zero infrastructure changes?
> 
> Here's a patch against qemu 1.0 (sorry) Ubuntu dist (sorry) that
> uses weak binding to load and compile against any version of
> librbd:
>   https://github.com/flexiant/qemu/commit/6fa2e9c95bdaca7c814881e27f04424fb6cc2960
> 
> This requires librbd-dev headers of some sort in order to build. But
> librbd does not need to be there on a deployment, and indeed multiple
> versions work (and the patch does different things depending on
> librbd version).

No, librbd does need to be there for the other symbols that are not weak
(e.g. rbd_aio_read).  This approach cannot be "taken to the limit", i.e.
removing the librbd dependency altogether.  For example:

xx.c:
int f(void)
{
	return 42;
}

yy.c:
#pragma weak f
extern int f(void);
int main()
{
	printf("%p %d", f, f ? f(): 67);
}

$ gcc xx.c -shared -o xx.so
$ LD_RUN_PATH=$PWD gcc yy.c xx.so -o yy
$ ./yy
0x4005b0 42
$ rm xx.so
$ ./yy
./yy: error while loading shared libraries: xx.so: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory


Also, the code _is_ ugly.  Do it once and it's perhaps acceptable.  Do
it for libiscsi, librbd, libcurl, libssh2, SPICE, GTK+, SDL etc. and it
becomes unmaintainable.

Paolo

> This would seem to achieve the stated objective (qemu package can
> be installed without librbd dependencies) without any reliance
> on modules at all. So we could scrap the whole modules infrastructure
> and just tell people developing third party libraries to use weak
> binding. As you can see, for librbd anyway, the changes required
> to support weak binding are pretty minimal.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-16  6:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 0/8] Shared Library Module Support Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 1/8] ui/Makefile.objs: delete unnecessary cocoa.o dependency Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 2/8] make.rule: fix $(obj) to a real relative path Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 3/8] rule.mak: allow per object cflags and libs Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 4/8] build-sys: introduce common-obj-m and block-obj-m for DSO Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 5/8] module: implement module loading Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  8:59   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16  9:28     ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 22:16       ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-17  0:47         ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  9:44     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16  9:51       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 10:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 10:14           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 10:18             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 10:21               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 10:30                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:29                   ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 11:33                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:46                       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 22:31                         ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-17  1:29                           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-17  5:40                             ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-18 11:45                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-18 14:44                                 ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-18 15:00                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-17  8:50                     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-09-16 10:57           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-09-16 11:00             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 22:38               ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-16 10:24         ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 10:38           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-09-16 11:00             ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 11:04               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 11:27                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 11:08               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:30                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-17  8:26             ` Wenchao Xia
2013-09-16 10:43           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 11:05   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 12:36     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-09-17  5:55       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-17  6:33         ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-17  6:40           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 6/8] Makefile: install modules with "make install" Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 7/8] .gitignore: ignore module related files (dll, so, mo) Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 8/8] block: convert block drivers linked with libs to modules Fam Zheng

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