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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, famz@redhat.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, vilanova@ac.upc.edu, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 5/8] module: implement module loading
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:08:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5236E69B.3040502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EF1894FF-125D-41B0-83DF-4C7769184FF8@alex.org.uk>

Il 16/09/2013 13:00, Alex Bligh ha scritto:
> 
> On 16 Sep 2013, at 11:38, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
>> No, librbd does need to be there for the other symbols that are not weak
>> (e.g. rbd_aio_read).  This approach cannot be "taken to the limit", i.e.
>> removing the librbd dependency altogether.  For example:
>>
>> xx.c:
>> int f(void)
>> {
>> 	return 42;
>> }
>>
>> yy.c:
>> #pragma weak f
>> extern int f(void);
>> int main()
>> {
>> 	printf("%p %d", f, f ? f(): 67);
>> }
>>
>> $ gcc xx.c -shared -o xx.so
>> $ LD_RUN_PATH=$PWD gcc yy.c xx.so -o yy
>> $ ./yy
>> 0x4005b0 42
>> $ rm xx.so
>> $ ./yy
>> ./yy: error while loading shared libraries: xx.so: cannot open shared
>> object file: No such file or directory
> 
> I think you need to wrap f, i.e. take g as a pointer to f(), and
> call g().

No, you need to do dlopen("librbd.so"), which is bad because then
distros that can track .so dependencies will not do it anymore.
qemu-devel had a patch to do exactly that.

>> Also, the code _is_ ugly.  Do it once and it's perhaps acceptable.  Do
>> it for libiscsi, librbd, libcurl, libssh2, SPICE, GTK+, SDL etc. and it
>> becomes unmaintainable.
> 
> I agree it's ugly. However, it's pretty much the only way to cope
> with different versions of libraries.

But the reason to do modularization is not to "cope with different
versions of libraries".  In fact that's a problem that Fam's patches do
not solve at all.  The reason to do modularization is to make libraries
optional, i.e. let them be completely absent.

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-16  6:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 0/8] Shared Library Module Support Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 1/8] ui/Makefile.objs: delete unnecessary cocoa.o dependency Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 2/8] make.rule: fix $(obj) to a real relative path Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 3/8] rule.mak: allow per object cflags and libs Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 4/8] build-sys: introduce common-obj-m and block-obj-m for DSO Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 5/8] module: implement module loading Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  8:59   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16  9:28     ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 22:16       ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-17  0:47         ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  9:44     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16  9:51       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 10:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 10:14           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 10:18             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 10:21               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 10:30                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:29                   ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 11:33                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:46                       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 22:31                         ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-17  1:29                           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-17  5:40                             ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-18 11:45                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-18 14:44                                 ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-18 15:00                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-17  8:50                     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-09-16 10:57           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-09-16 11:00             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 22:38               ` Richard Henderson
2013-09-16 10:24         ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 10:38           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-16 11:00             ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 11:04               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 11:27                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-16 11:08               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-09-16 11:30                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-17  8:26             ` Wenchao Xia
2013-09-16 10:43           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16 11:05   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2013-09-16 12:36     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-09-17  5:55       ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-17  6:33         ` Alex Bligh
2013-09-17  6:40           ` Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 6/8] Makefile: install modules with "make install" Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 7/8] .gitignore: ignore module related files (dll, so, mo) Fam Zheng
2013-09-16  6:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 8/8] block: convert block drivers linked with libs to modules Fam Zheng

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