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From: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, quintela@redhat.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, owasserm@redhat.com, abali@us.ibm.com,
	mrhines@us.ibm.com, gokul@us.ibm.com, knoel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 7/8] rdma: introduce MIG_STATE_NONE and change MIG_STATE_SETUP state transition
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:32:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52544196.9000708@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52542D57.30401@redhat.com>

On 10/08/2013 12:05 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 08/10/2013 16:49, Eric Blake ha scritto:
>> You are now returning a state that older libvirt versions are not
>> expecting.  Obviously, we can patch newer libvirt to make migration work
>> again, but should we be thinking about damage control by stating that an
>> older management app should still be able to drive migration on a new
>> qemu?  Or is it acceptable to state that newer qemu requires newer
>> management tools?
> We strive for that, but sometimes we break because we do not really know
> what management expects from QEMU.
>
> In this case, in particular, I think a capability is a bit overkill.
> Libvirt needs to be somewhat liberal in what it accepts; in this case it
> can treat any unknown state as "active".
>
> Paolo

That makes sense to me too - the setup state is "effectively" the same
as active and can be safely treated as such.

There's a similar issue MigrationInfo statistics - what's the
backwards/forwards-compatible procedure for not breaking libvirt
when new statics appear? - such as "setup-time", which timestamps
the new state that was introduced?

- Michael
for adding new statistics

- Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-08 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-22 14:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 0/8] rdma: core logic mrhines
2013-07-22 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 1/8] rdma: update documentation to reflect new unpin support mrhines
2013-07-22 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 2/8] rdma: bugfix: ram_control_save_page() mrhines
2013-07-22 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 3/8] rdma: introduce ram_handle_compressed() mrhines
2013-07-22 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 4/8] rdma: core logic mrhines
2013-07-22 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 5/8] rdma: send pc.ram mrhines
2013-07-22 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 6/8] rdma: allow state transitions between other states besides ACTIVE mrhines
2013-07-22 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 7/8] rdma: introduce MIG_STATE_NONE and change MIG_STATE_SETUP state transition mrhines
2013-10-08 14:49   ` Eric Blake
2013-10-08 16:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-08 17:32       ` Michael R. Hines [this message]
2013-10-08 17:46         ` Eric Blake
2013-10-22 23:39       ` Chris Wulff
2013-07-22 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 8/8] rdma: account for the time spent in MIG_STATE_SETUP through QMP mrhines
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-07-16 16:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 0/8] rdma: core logic mrhines
2013-07-16 16:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 resend 7/8] rdma: introduce MIG_STATE_NONE and change MIG_STATE_SETUP state transition mrhines

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