From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: pkrempa@redhat.com, marcel.a@redhat.com, libvir-list@redhat.com,
Hu Tao <hutao@cn.fujitsu.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, rhod@redhat.com,
kraxel@redhat.com, anthony@codemonkey.ws,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
lcapitulino@redhat.com, lersek@redhat.com, afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] pvpanic plans?
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 08:49:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52726DE4.3090807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131031144729.GB9948@redhat.com>
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On 10/31/2013 08:47 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> if (event & PVPANIC_PANICKED) {
>>> panicked_mon_event("pause");
>>> - vm_stop(RUN_STATE_GUEST_PANICKED);
>>
>> Don't you still need to halt the guest on a panic event, for management
>> to have a chance to choose what to do about the panic?
>
> Guest can just call hlt to do this. Most guests do this on a panic
> already.
On the one hand, the fact that the guest already has to inform the host
means we are already trusting the guest behavior on a panic. On the
other hand, assuming that the guest will ALWAYS halt after triggering a
panic is putting a lot more trust in the guest, compared to qemu
explicitly halting the guest so that management has a chance to choose
to dump the guest's state at the moment the panic was flagged.
The biggest argument for either removing all auto-pvpanic, or reverting
pvpanic altogether, is that no one seems to be actively using pvpanic in
the field yet. I wish we could get more feedback from Fujitsu as the
original patch authors on what they are looking for in a working
solution, rather than repeatedly second-guessing everything downstream
and delaying the eradication of the buggy behavior even longer.
--
Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-31 14:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-22 16:10 [Qemu-devel] pvpanic plans? Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-22 16:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-22 17:53 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-22 18:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-27 8:42 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-22 19:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-22 20:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-22 20:36 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-22 20:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-23 8:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-22 21:08 ` Peter Maydell
2013-08-27 8:06 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-27 13:08 ` Ronen Hod
2013-08-27 13:20 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-27 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-27 13:57 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-27 13:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2013-08-27 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-27 13:21 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-22 17:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-22 18:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-08-22 19:44 ` Christian Borntraeger
2013-08-22 19:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-08-22 19:41 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-22 20:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2013-10-24 2:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hu Tao
2013-10-29 16:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-10-31 14:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 14:32 ` Eric Blake
2013-10-31 14:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-10-31 14:39 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 14:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 14:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 15:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 15:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 15:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 15:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 16:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 16:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 16:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 16:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 16:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 16:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 17:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 17:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 17:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 17:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 18:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-10-31 16:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 14:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-10-31 14:49 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2013-10-31 15:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-04 9:25 ` Christian Borntraeger
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