From: Lei Li <lilei@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
quintela@redhat.com, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
aliguori@amazon.com, lagarcia@br.ibm.com, rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/17 v3] Localhost migration with side channel for ram
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 19:07:34 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <529480F6.60409@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52931CED.9090103@redhat.com>
On 11/25/2013 05:48 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 25/11/2013 08:29, Lei Li ha scritto:
>>
>> In this case, if the migration would fail just because the misconfiguration
>> of device state on destination, in the meantime the outgoing migration has
>> no aware of this failure, I think it should add such handling (like synchronize
>> of the device state list in incoming side?) to the current migration protocol
>> as it is kind of missing... It can not just rely on the resume of source
>> guest for such failure... or maybe it should be handled in management
>> app to force the configuration right?
> It is already handled by libvirt, indeed.
>
> Basically, "-incoming" without "-S" is a broken option because of the
> missing handshake at the end of migration. With "-S" something else
> (either a human or a program) can check that everything went well and
> choose whether to restart the source or the destination.
I see, thanks for your explanation. :-)
BTW, do you think we should add such handling to the current migration
protocol?
>
>>> Postcopy would fix this (assuming the postcopy phase is reliable) by
>>> migrating device data before any page flipping occurs.
>> Are you suggesting that page flipping should be coupled with the postcopy
>> migration for live upgrade of QEMU as your comments in the previous
>> version?
> In order to make live upgrade reliable, it should.
The whole procedure for page flipping migration is straight forward, and
the cases of failure I listed are in theory, which never happened at least
since many times I have tested (except the case you raised above). But I
agree with you on coupling with postcopy migration to make it more reliable,
specially for the undetected problems.
For this, I am not quite sure I understand it correctly, seems the latest
update of post copy migration was sent on last Oct, would you please give
some insights on what else could I do for the coupling with postcopy migration?
If no, now page flipping is implemented as a migration capability, and it's
a good shape already as your comments in the previous version. Although it
still needs a little more time to get the numbers of the new vmsplice, I'd to
ask your opinion that do you consider it could be merged as an experimental
version for now?
>
> Paolo
>
--
Lei
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-26 11:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-21 9:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/17 v3] Localhost migration with side channel for ram Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] QAPI: introduce migration capability unix_page_flipping Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] migration: add migrate_unix_page_flipping() Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] qmp-command.hx: add missing docs for migration capabilites Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] migration-local: add QEMUFileLocal with socket based QEMUFile Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] migration-local: introduce qemu_fopen_socket_local() Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] migration-local: add send_pipefd() Lei Li
2013-11-26 11:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] migration-local: override before_ram_iterate to send pipefd Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] add unix_msgfd_lookup() to callback get_buffer Lei Li
2013-11-26 11:30 ` Lei Li
2013-11-26 11:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:00 ` Lei Li
2013-11-26 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] save_page: replace block_offset with a MemoryRegion Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] migration-local: override save_page for page transmit Lei Li
2013-11-26 11:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:10 ` Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] savevm: adjust ram_control_save_page for page flipping Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] migration-local: override hook_ram_load Lei Li
2013-11-26 11:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:11 ` Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] migration-unix: replace qemu_fopen_socket with qemu_fopen_socket_local Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] add new RanState RAN_STATE_MEMORY_STALE Lei Li
2013-11-26 12:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:02 ` Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] migration-unix: page flipping support on unix outgoing Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] migration: adjust migration_thread() process for page flipping Lei Li
2013-11-26 11:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:03 ` Lei Li
2013-11-26 12:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 13:53 ` Lei Li
2013-11-26 14:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 8:19 ` Lei Li
2013-11-21 9:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] hmp: better format for info migrate_capabilities Lei Li
2013-11-21 10:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/17 v3] Localhost migration with side channel for ram Daniel P. Berrange
2013-11-22 11:29 ` Lei Li
2013-11-22 11:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 7:29 ` Lei Li
2013-11-25 9:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 11:07 ` Lei Li [this message]
2013-11-26 11:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-27 16:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2013-11-22 11:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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