From: Avi Kivity <avi@cloudius-systems.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@minantech.com>
Cc: "Huangweidong (C)" <weidong.huang@huawei.com>,
KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Zhanghaoyu (A)" <haoyu.zhang@huawei.com>,
Luonengjun <luonengjun@huawei.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Zanghongyong <zanghongyong@huawei.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Jinxin (F)" <jinxin712@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:12:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52971727.2030600@cloudius-systems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131128101138.GB5822@minantech.com>
On 11/28/2013 12:11 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:49:00AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 11/28/2013 11:19 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 09:55:42AM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> Il 28/11/2013 07:27, Zhanghaoyu (A) ha scritto:
>>>>>>> Without synchronize_rcu you could have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> VCPU writes to routing table
>>>>>>> e = entry from IRQ routing table
>>>>>>> kvm_irq_routing_update(kvm, new);
>>>>>>> VCPU resumes execution
>>>>>>> kvm_set_msi_irq(e, &irq);
>>>>>>> kvm_irq_delivery_to_apic_fast();
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where the entry is stale but the VCPU has already resumed execution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> If we use call_rcu()(Not consider the problem that Gleb pointed out temporarily) instead of synchronize_rcu(), should we still ensure this?
>>>> The problem is that we should ensure this, so using call_rcu is not
>>>> possible (even not considering the memory allocation problem).
>>>>
>>> Not changing current behaviour is certainly safer, but I am still not 100%
>>> convinced we have to ensure this.
>>>
>>> Suppose guest does:
>>>
>>> 1: change msi interrupt by writing to pci register
>>> 2: read the pci register to flush the write
>>> 3: zero idt
>>>
>>> I am pretty certain that this code can get interrupt after step 2 on real HW,
>>> but I cannot tell if guest can rely on it to be delivered exactly after
>>> read instruction or it can be delayed by couple of instructions. Seems to me
>>> it would be fragile for an OS to depend on this behaviour. AFAIK Linux does not.
>>>
>> Linux is safe, it does interrupt migration from within the interrupt
>> handler. If you do that before the device-specific EOI, you won't
>> get another interrupt until programming the MSI is complete.
>>
>> Is virtio safe? IIRC it can post multiple interrupts without guest acks.
>>
>> Using call_rcu() is a better solution than srcu IMO. Less code
>> changes, consistently faster.
> Why not fix userspace to use KVM_SIGNAL_MSI instead?
>
>
Shouldn't it work with old userspace too? Maybe I misunderstood your intent.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-28 10:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-26 12:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] create a single workqueue for each vm to update vm irq routing table Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 12:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 12:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 13:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 3:46 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 16:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:14 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-30 2:46 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-26 13:18 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 13:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 14:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 14:54 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:25 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 15:35 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 15:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:06 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-26 16:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:27 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 16:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-26 16:29 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-26 16:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 6:27 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28 8:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 9:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 9:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 9:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 9:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:16 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 10:47 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:16 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 10:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 10:12 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2013-11-28 11:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-28 11:30 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-28 11:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 15:24 ` Avi Kivity
2013-11-28 9:14 ` Zhanghaoyu (A)
2013-11-28 9:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-11-26 12:50 ` Gleb Natapov
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