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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, aliguori@amazon.com,
	stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com, hutao@cn.fujitsu.com,
	quintela@redhat.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com,
	kraxel@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	marcel.a@redhat.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com,
	afaerber@suse.de, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/27] qapi: add SIZE type parser to string_input_visitor
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:46:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52B314DD.2010107@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131219154036.GA2717@redhat.com>

Il 19/12/2013 16:40, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 04:31:41PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 19/12/2013 15:40, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 09:43:48AM -0700, Eric Blake wrote:
>>>> On 11/25/2013 09:32 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Yes please. Firing up a calculator to figure out how much is 1G is not
>>>>>> friendly, neither is firing it up to figure out what did management do
>>>>>> with QMP. It should be a text based interface not a binary one.
>>>>
>>>> Right now, QMP takes an 'int', which does not allow a suffix.  Libvirt
>>>> prefers passing a value in 'bytes', rather than risking confusion on
>>>> whether a value in G was rounded (up, down? to nearest power of 10 or
>>>> power of 2?).  Unfortunately, yes, that means you need a calculator when
>>>> parsing QMP logs to see whether the 1073741824 passed by libvirt is the
>>>> 1G you had in mind.
>>>>
>>>> HMP, qtest, and any other decent shell around raw QMP is more than
>>>> welcome to provide human-usable wrappers that takes "1G" as a string and
>>>> turns it into the raw int used by the underlying QMP.  In fact, I
>>>> encourage it.
>>>
>>> How will it know 1G is not e.g. an ID?
>>
>> Because all properties are associated to a name.  In the case of a
>> memory device, the name could be "size" or "id".  When requesting the
>> id, QEMU will use visit_type_str.  When requesting the size, QEMU will
>> use visit_type_size.  Different functions are called, and the different
>> functions accept different input.
> 
> QEMU can do this, but if you want a frontend with QMP as backend,
> it won't.
> So you end up re-implementing this logic in all frontends:
> instead of just passing on properties they need to know
> where 1G is a number and where it's a name.

You have schema introspection that lets you know if a property is an int
or a size.

OptsVisitor chose to accept 1G, but this absolutely need not be
universal.  Human interfaces must not be designed according to QEMU's
own whims.  Another front-end may want to differentiate 1GB from 1GiB, a
graphical front-end may want to present different widgets; they can do
it because they see "size" in the schema but in any case the "final"
communication to QEMU via QMP will be an int.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-19 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-21  2:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/27 RFC v7] ACPI memory hotplug Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/27] acpi: factor out common pm_update_sci() into acpi core Igor Mammedov
2013-12-05 12:37   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-05 15:11     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/27] rename pci_hotplug_fn to hotplug_fn and make it available for other devices Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 12:49   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 13:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 15:57     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/27] pc: add 'etc/reserved-memory-end' fw_cfg interface for SeaBIOS Igor Mammedov
2013-12-19 14:35   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-20 12:48     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-12-22 11:20       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/27] vl: convert -m to qemu_opts_parse() Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  6:01   ` Li Guang
2013-11-21 13:45     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21 10:12   ` Markus Armbruster
2013-11-26 13:17     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-26 14:49       ` Markus Armbruster
2013-11-26 16:55         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-27 14:35           ` Markus Armbruster
2013-11-27 15:28             ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-27 17:31               ` Markus Armbruster
2013-11-27  0:27         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/28] vl: convert -m to QemuOpts Igor Mammedov
2013-11-27  0:27           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/28] vl.c: extend -m option to support options for memory hotplug Igor Mammedov
2013-12-10  7:23           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/28] vl: convert -m to QemuOpts Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-10 10:53             ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 12:51   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/27] vl: convert -m to qemu_opts_parse() Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-27  0:32     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/27] qapi: add SIZE type parser to string_input_visitor Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21 10:15   ` Markus Armbruster
2013-11-25 15:36     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 16:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25 16:32         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 16:43           ` Eric Blake
2013-11-25 17:01             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-27 14:15             ` Markus Armbruster
2013-11-27 15:17               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-27 17:02                 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-11-27 17:10                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-19 14:40             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-19 15:14               ` Markus Armbruster
2013-12-19 15:32                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-19 15:31               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-12-19 15:40                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-19 15:46                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/27] get reference to /backend container via qemu_get_backend() Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/27] add memdev backend infrastructure Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 12:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 16:01     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 16:09       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-27 14:37         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-27 15:21           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-27 15:57             ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-27 15:25   ` Eric Blake
2013-11-27 16:09     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/27] dimm: implement dimm device abstraction Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 12:57   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 15:10     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 15:16       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/27] dimm: map DimmDevice into DimBus provided address space Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/27] dimm: add busy slot check and slot auto-allocation Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/27] dimm: add busy address check and address auto-allocation Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/27] dimm: add hotplug callback to DimmBus Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 13:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 14:40     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/27] acpi: memory hotplug ACPI hardware implementation Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  9:42   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-21 14:21     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21 14:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-22 17:14         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-24 10:58           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25  7:27             ` Markus Armbruster
2013-11-25 13:45               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 14:18                 ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 14:31                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 14:57                     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 13:56             ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-27 17:59   ` Eric Blake
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/27] acpi: initialize memory hotplug ACPI PIIX4 hardware Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/27] acpi: piix4: add memory-hotplug-io-base property to piix4_pm Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/27] acpi: ich9: allow guest to clear SCI rised by GPE Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  7:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-21  8:12     ` Hu Tao
2013-11-21  8:18       ` Li Guang
2013-11-21  8:29         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-21  8:32           ` Li Guang
2013-11-21  9:43             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-22  0:57               ` Li Guang
2013-11-25 11:13                 ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-26  0:29                   ` Li Guang
2013-11-26 22:36                     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-27  0:15                       ` Li Guang
2013-11-27  0:57                         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-27  1:48                           ` Li Guang
2013-11-27  9:43                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-21 13:19             ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-22  1:03               ` Li Guang
2013-11-21  8:26       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-21  8:28         ` Hu Tao
2013-11-21 13:31           ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21 13:21         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/27] acpi: initialize memory hotplug ACPI ICH9 hardware Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/27] acpi: ich9: add memory-hotplug-io-base property to ich9_pm Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/27] acpi: piix4/ich9: add optional vmstate field for MemHotplugState migration Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/27] pc: piix: make PCII440FXState type public Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/27] pc: add memory hotplug 440fx machine Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  5:48   ` Li Guang
2013-11-21 14:13     ` Andreas Färber
2013-11-21 14:34       ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21 14:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-21 16:09         ` Andreas Färber
2013-11-21 16:17           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25 10:41           ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 17:00             ` Andreas Färber
2013-11-26 20:26               ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-22 14:23   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-11-25 11:00     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 11:39       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-11-25 13:34         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 13:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 14:24           ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/27] pc: add memory hotplug Q35 machine Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/27] pc: ACPI BIOS: implement memory hotplug interface Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  9:37   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25 14:39     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-12-16 19:50       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-12-16 21:42         ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-25 13:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-11-25 14:26     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/27] pc: ACPI BIOS: add ssdt-mem.hex.generated and update ssdt-misc.hex.generated Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/27] pc: ACPI BIOS: use enum for defining memory affinity flags Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  7:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25 10:11     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/27] pc: ACPI BIOS: reserve SRAT entry for hotplug mem hole Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  7:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25 10:11     ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  2:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/27] pc: ACPI BIOS: make GPE.3 handle memory hotplug event on PIIX and Q35 machines Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21  6:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/27 RFC v7] ACPI memory hotplug Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-21 13:39   ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21 13:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-21 14:37       ` Igor Mammedov
2013-11-21 14:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-11-25 10:09           ` Igor Mammedov

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