From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38049) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WBksT-0004Dq-6b for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 07:50:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WBksK-0000jX-NV for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 07:49:53 -0500 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:56757 helo=mx2.suse.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WBksK-0000jT-Gk for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 07:49:44 -0500 Message-ID: <52F4D665.1090203@suse.de> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:49:41 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBGw6RyYmVy?= MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1391621709-15620-1-git-send-email-afaerber@suse.de> <52F2795D.10708@redhat.com> <52F27A1D.2040504@suse.de> <52F27B1C.6010307@redhat.com> <52F27C7A.2040701@suse.de> <52F487AE.4060301@redhat.com> <52F4BEEA.5060606@suse.de> <52F4C1B1.302@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <52F4C1B1.302@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] scripts: Add qom-tree script as modern equivalent of info qtree List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Paolo Bonzini , qemu-devel@nongnu.org Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, armbru@redhat.com, aliguori@amazon.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com Am 07.02.2014 12:21, schrieb Paolo Bonzini: > Il 07/02/2014 12:09, Andreas F=C3=A4rber ha scritto: >>> No matter how much I like QOM (I do), I would rather say that the all >>> QOM grand plan has been "inconclusive". 99% in-tree uses of QOM are >>> just a glorified qdev, buses and all. You shouldn't be surprised if >>> people still care about the "legacy" qdev tree. >> >> I am not offended about people caring about legacy devices. I am >> offended that people are trying to revert good QOM changes so that the= y >> match their expectations from legacy concepts. [...] >> I have stated at two KVM Forums already that qdev is dead. >=20 > Define "qdev", please. See my slides. :) qdev is a framework from Paul Brook with a bus-tree-oriented graph. QOM by comparison uses an arbitrary composition tree of child<> nodes. qdev as such no longer exists since late 2011 / early 2012. Andreas --=20 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 N=C3=BCrnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imend=C3=B6rffer; HRB 16746 AG N=C3=BC= rnberg