From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: stefanha@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
qiaonuohan <qiaonuohan@cn.fujitsu.com>,
kumagai-atsushi@mxc.nes.nec.co.jp, anderson@redhat.com,
afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 13/13] dump: add 'query-dump-guest-memory-capability' command
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 00:30:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F9611D.7000808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52F95C46.3030701@redhat.com>
On 02/11/14 00:09, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 10/02/2014 23:02, Laszlo Ersek ha scritto:
>> On 02/10/14 20:10, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:22:06 +0800
>>> qiaonuohan <qiaonuohan@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'query-dump-guest-memory-capability' is used to query whether option
>>>> 'format'
>>>> is available for 'dump-guest-memory' and the available format. The
>>>> output
>>>> of the command will be like:
>>>>
>>>> -> { "execute": "query-dump-guest-memory-capability" }
>>>> <- { "return": {
>>>> "format-option": "optional",
>>>> "capabilities": [
>>>> {"available": true, "format": "elf"},
>>>> {"available": true, "format": "kdump-zlib"},
>>>> {"available": true, "format": "kdump-lzo"},
>>>> {"available": true, "format": "kdump-snappy"}
>>>> ]
>>>> }
>>>
>>> I don't want to hold this series anymore, this series is long and I
>>> know it
>>> took you and Laszlo's a long time to get it right. On the other hand
>>> we can't
>>> allow every single command to have its own introspection protocol.
>>>
>>> I think I'm fine accepting this one now, as long as it's fine for
>>> libvirt
>>> too. Eric, can you confirm this please?
>>
>> We discussed this before, and Eric participated. In fact the custom
>> introspection was one of his recommendations.
>>
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/221270/focus=246650
>>
>> (Which I agreed with because it would give us the most independence.)
>>
>> Of course I'm not trying to imply that this one specific interface will
>> doubtlessly serve all of libvirt's needs wrt. the kdump feature. We
>> certainly need Eric to sign off on that.
>
> I think the justification here is that even if you defined an Enum for
> ['elf','kdump-zlib', 'kdump-lzo', 'kdump-snappy'], it would not be
> enough to describe which values were compiled in (as opposed to
> supported by the particular QEMU version).
>
> However, I don't see the point in having the "format-option" field. What
> about:
>
> -> { "execute": "query-dump-guest-memory-capabilities" }
> <- { "return": { "formats":
> ["elf", "kdump-zlib", "kdump-lzo", "kdump-snappy"] }
Technically you might be right. However, this partial introspection
feature is entirely a wart whose existence is exclusively justified by
non-technical reasons, such as deadlines, and not wanting to be blocked
indefinitely by architecture astronautics around full introspection. I
don't see the point of polishing it beyond bare usability, at least not
after I've reviewed three versions of the patchset.
That's of course just my opinion... :)
Laszlo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-10 23:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-28 6:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 00/13] Make 'dump-guest-memory' dump in kdump-compressed format qiaonuohan
2014-01-28 6:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 01/13] dump: const-qualify the buf of WriteCoreDumpFunction qiaonuohan
2014-01-28 6:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 02/13] dump: add argument to write_elfxx_notes qiaonuohan
2014-01-28 6:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 03/13] dump: add API to write header of flatten format qiaonuohan
2014-02-10 19:35 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-10 21:57 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-10 22:48 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-10 23:20 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-11 9:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-01-28 6:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 04/13] dump: add API to write vmcore qiaonuohan
2014-01-28 6:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 05/13] dump: add API to write elf notes to buffer qiaonuohan
2014-01-28 6:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 06/13] dump: add support for lzo/snappy qiaonuohan
2014-01-28 6:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 07/13] dump: add members to DumpState and init some of them qiaonuohan
2014-01-29 14:11 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-28 6:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 08/13] dump: add API to write dump header qiaonuohan
2014-01-28 11:51 ` Ekaterina Tumanova
2014-01-28 13:37 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-28 14:42 ` Ekaterina Tumanova
2014-01-28 14:55 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-29 1:39 ` Qiao Nuohan
2014-01-29 14:19 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-30 17:14 ` Ekaterina Tumanova
2014-01-28 6:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 09/13] dump: add API to write dump_bitmap qiaonuohan
2014-01-29 14:32 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-28 6:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 10/13] dump: add APIs to operate DataCache qiaonuohan
2014-01-28 6:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 11/13] dump: add API to write dump pages qiaonuohan
2014-01-29 14:39 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-28 6:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 12/13] dump: make kdump-compressed format available for 'dump-guest-memory' qiaonuohan
2014-01-29 14:45 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-28 6:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 13/13] dump: add 'query-dump-guest-memory-capability' command qiaonuohan
2014-02-10 19:10 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-10 22:02 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-10 23:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-10 23:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-10 23:30 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2014-02-10 23:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-11 0:22 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-11 2:37 ` Qiao Nuohan
2014-02-11 2:47 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-11 3:20 ` Qiao Nuohan
2014-02-11 7:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-11 13:26 ` Eric Blake
2014-02-12 3:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 " Qiao Nuohan
2014-02-12 3:29 ` Eric Blake
2014-02-12 6:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v10 " Qiao Nuohan
2014-02-12 14:49 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-13 1:48 ` Qiao Nuohan
2014-02-13 2:57 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-13 13:13 ` Eric Blake
2014-02-13 13:45 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-01-28 6:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 00/13] Make 'dump-guest-memory' dump in kdump-compressed format Qiao Nuohan
2014-01-29 14:50 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-30 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Define the architecture for compressed dump format Ekaterina Tumanova
2014-01-30 17:20 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-31 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] Define guest architecture for the compressed dump header Ekaterina Tumanova
2014-01-31 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] Define the architecture for compressed dump format Ekaterina Tumanova
2014-01-31 13:56 ` Christian Borntraeger
2014-01-31 14:11 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-01-31 15:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/1] Detect arch for dump compressed header Ekaterina Tumanova
2014-01-31 15:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/1] Define the architecture for compressed dump format Ekaterina Tumanova
2014-02-13 13:50 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-01-31 17:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/1] Detect arch for dump compressed header Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-10 21:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-10 22:06 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-10 3:34 ` Qiao Nuohan
2014-02-10 8:29 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-10 8:57 ` Qiao Nuohan
2014-02-10 13:24 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-11 17:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 00/13] Make 'dump-guest-memory' dump in kdump-compressed format Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-17 17:51 ` Luiz Capitulino
2014-02-18 6:16 ` Qiao Nuohan
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