From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andreas Faerber <afaerber@suse.de>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QOM vs QAPI for QMP APIs
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:00:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5307BE7A.5050007@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <530764B0.40500@redhat.com>
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On 02/21/2014 07:37 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> I have no objection to introducing a QMP command.
>>
>> I think qom-find-objects-by-class is a reasonable approach but I would
>> also consider just grouping all of the IOThreads in a well known path
>> instead of just having them live in /objects. So something like
>> /objects/threads/thread0/pid.
>
> /objects is the namespace for -object, but a similar idea is that
> objects could create links of themselves under other paths. So you
> would have /threads where you can list iothread objects or /backend/rng
> for RNG backends.
>
> Still Stefan doesn't like the idea of sending O(n) commands to query the
> thread ID of n iothread objects.
The other burden is documenting what QOM paths to be queried, and
knowing where to find that documentation. That is, it's another layer
of complexity, but it's also a more powerful expression.
I'm comparing this situation somewhat to libvirt's 'virsh
qemu-monitor-command' vs. other libvirt commands. qemu-monitor-command
is a more powerful interface (via libvirt, you can issue ANY qmp
command), and is therefore great for development for testing something
that libvirt has not yet supported; but not so nice to the end user
(it's use is explicitly unsupported). What happens is that as people
say "I had to use qemu-monitor-command to do task A", it is a hint to
libvirt development to say "oh, we need to add an API to make task A
easier to do".
Thus, having qom-find-objects-by-class is a good idea, even if it is
more awkward to use than a dedicated qmp command. But meanwhile, we
should watch what common patterns it gets used for, and add dedicated
QMP commands for those patterns. It's much faster to get a chunk of
information in one QMP call already formatted into desired structs than
it is to make a series of QMP calls to learn about the lower-level qom
model one piece at a time.
--
Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-21 21:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-21 9:16 [Qemu-devel] QOM vs QAPI for QMP APIs Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-02-21 14:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2014-02-21 14:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-21 21:00 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2014-02-24 8:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-02-24 16:08 ` Eric Blake
2014-02-25 8:25 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-02-25 8:30 ` Andreas Färber
2014-02-25 8:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-25 8:33 ` Andreas Färber
2014-02-21 14:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-02-25 9:46 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-02-25 10:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-02-25 10:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-25 13:39 ` Kevin Wolf
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