From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Andreas Faerber <afaerber@suse.de>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QOM vs QAPI for QMP APIs
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:08:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <530B6E85.30709@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ha7o6hhj.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>
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On 02/24/2014 01:29 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>
>> The other burden is documenting what QOM paths to be queried, and
>> knowing where to find that documentation. That is, it's another layer
>> of complexity, but it's also a more powerful expression.
>>
>> I'm comparing this situation somewhat to libvirt's 'virsh
>> qemu-monitor-command' vs. other libvirt commands. qemu-monitor-command
>> is a more powerful interface (via libvirt, you can issue ANY qmp
>> command), and is therefore great for development for testing something
>> that libvirt has not yet supported; but not so nice to the end user
>> (it's use is explicitly unsupported). What happens is that as people
>> say "I had to use qemu-monitor-command to do task A", it is a hint to
>> libvirt development to say "oh, we need to add an API to make task A
>> easier to do".
>>
>> Thus, having qom-find-objects-by-class is a good idea, even if it is
>> more awkward to use than a dedicated qmp command. But meanwhile, we
>> should watch what common patterns it gets used for, and add dedicated
>> QMP commands for those patterns. It's much faster to get a chunk of
>> information in one QMP call already formatted into desired structs than
>> it is to make a series of QMP calls to learn about the lower-level qom
>> model one piece at a time.
>
> You didn't spell out the ABI promises here. Do you argue for providing
> QOM interfaces as unstable low-level interfaces?
Haven't we already done that in the past? For example, object-add
currently takes an unspecified dictionary of options, where you would
have to consult QOM documentation to learn what makes sense to send.
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Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-24 16:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-21 9:16 [Qemu-devel] QOM vs QAPI for QMP APIs Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-02-21 14:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2014-02-21 14:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-21 21:00 ` Eric Blake
2014-02-24 8:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-02-24 16:08 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2014-02-25 8:25 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-02-25 8:30 ` Andreas Färber
2014-02-25 8:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-25 8:33 ` Andreas Färber
2014-02-21 14:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-02-25 9:46 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-02-25 10:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-02-25 10:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-25 13:39 ` Kevin Wolf
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