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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/3] qapi: Add a primitive to include other files from a QAPI schema file
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:56:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5314C244.5070805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8738izxpyb.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

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On 03/03/2014 08:27 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:

>>>> +The QAPI schema definitions can be modularized using the 'include'
>>>> directive:
>>>> +
>>>> + include("sub-system/qapi.json")
>>
>>> And now it isn't JSON anymore.
>>
>>> To keep it JSON, use syntax like
>>
>>>     { "include": "sub-system/qapi.json" }

I actually think this looks nicer - makes the file more consistent.

>>
>>> If you absolutely must make it non-JSON, you better rename the .json
>>> files.
>>
>>> Hmm, we already are non-JSON, because we use ' instead of " for no sane
>>> reason.

A weak argument: ' is easier than " to type (at least on US keyboards -
no shift key required).

Another weak argument: using ' in the qapi files vs. " in actual QMP
makes it easy to interleave discussions about semantics vs. examples of
those semantics in use (you can see whether a code snippet is talking
about qapi or wire format based on what quoting it used)

Our files are already non-JSON due to comments (JSON has no notion of #
introducing a comment to ignore text to the next newline).  But both our
use of comments and our use of ' instead of " can be remedied in a
one-pass sed script to get a true JSON output if such is needed, at
least as long as we don't need to quote any " characters in the schema.

Therefore, I agree that making the include syntax closer to true JSON is
desirable, whether or not we also decide to use " in the files to begin
with.  I don't see any way around the fact that JSON doesn't define
comments, vs. our absolute need for comments in our schema files, though.

>>
>>> Our JSON parser accepts ' as an extension, to save us quoting in C
>>> strings.  That reason doesn't apply to .json files.
>>
>> Is it a problem if they are not pure JSON? In the end, they are parsed by
>> qapi.py (which already knows about file syntax), and having a separate syntax
>> for includes makes it somewhat easier to spot when that happens.
> 
> I don't particularly care whether schema syntax is pure JSON, some
> bastardized variation of JSON, or something else entirely.  But as long
> as we advertize schema files it as .json, they better contain JSON.  If
> they contain something else, they should be called something else.

Maybe .qapi? But the name qapi-schema.qapi sounds redundant...

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-03 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-28 15:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/3] qapi: Allow modularization of QAPI schema files Lluís Vilanova
2014-02-28 15:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 1/3] qapi: Use an explicit input file Lluís Vilanova
2014-03-01  8:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-03 14:25     ` Lluís Vilanova
2014-03-03 15:42       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-03 16:59         ` Lluís Vilanova
2014-03-04 13:17           ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-05  0:58             ` Lluís Vilanova
2014-02-28 15:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 2/3] qapi: Add a primitive to include other files from a QAPI schema file Lluís Vilanova
2014-03-01  8:57   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-03 14:21     ` Lluís Vilanova
2014-03-03 15:27       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-03 17:04         ` Lluís Vilanova
2014-03-03 17:56         ` Eric Blake [this message]
2014-03-04  8:02           ` Markus Armbruster
2014-03-13 15:33             ` Benoît Canet
2014-03-13 15:54               ` Eric Blake
2014-03-13 18:05                 ` Lluís Vilanova
2014-03-14 16:35                   ` Benoît Canet
2014-03-14 20:24                     ` Lluís Vilanova
2014-03-14 21:55                       ` Benoît Canet
2014-03-17 14:20                 ` Benoît Canet
2014-02-28 15:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 3/3] qapi: Add tests for the "include" directive Lluís Vilanova
2014-02-28 16:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/3] qapi: Allow modularization of QAPI schema files Eric Blake

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