From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <gsomlo@gmail.com>
Cc: agraf@suse.de, kevin@koconnor.net, seabios@seabios.org,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 (RFC)] QEMU: SMBIOS: Build full smbios tables
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 18:04:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5318AAA0.1090301@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140306160913.GU17184@ERROL.INI.CMU.EDU>
On 03/06/14 17:09, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:03:32AM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>
>> You don't need to worry about live migration, but the smbios stuff
>> clearly goes into the guest-visible change category.
>>
>> smbios_type1_defaults is one of the compatibility controls. It is false
>> for 1.7 (+older) machine types and true otherwise. So when mucking with
>> it we need to be careful to not break the compatibility stuff.
>>
>> So, if we manage to get the patches into shape in time for qemu 2.0 your
>> way to do that is fine. We are pretty close to the 2.0 freeze though,
>> so maybe we should better plan for post-2.0 anyway, especially as you
>> plan to add more tables.
>
> Well, the only other type I'm personally interested in is 17 (memory
> device), because SeaBIOS doesn't build its smbios-v2.3 fields, even
> though it advertises v2.4 in its entry point data structure. And OS X
> is calling us out on that bluff... :)
>
>
> Type 2 (base board) is required during boot by OS X 10.7 and 10.8
> (strangely though, not by 10.6 or 10.9). But if it were only about
> Type 2, I'd probably have left it at passing the binary table in via
> the command line :)
>
>
> What really convinced me to go for all this additional work was
> Laszlo's suggestion that this might help if/when we try to start
> trying to use UEFI/tianocore/ovmf instead of SeaBIOS.
Let me be a bit more precise... :)
Moving SMBIOS generation from SeaBIOS to qemu (similarly to ACPI) would
benefit:
- SeaBIOS (IIRC Kevin had implied his preference for this),
- OVMF (no need to play catch-up field-wise),
- other boot firmware.
I think I didn't suggest using OVMF *instead of* SeaBIOS. :)
In any case, I think if you can pull of this migration of SMBIOS tables,
that would be a huge service to the community. I should have reviewed
your series but it seemed hard, and I didn't have to "look very far" for
other work :), so I postponed it. Then Gerd said "please split it up
into smaller patches", which I can only agree with! :)
Thanks!
Laszlo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-06 17:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-17 16:09 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2, Ping] SMBIOS: Upgrade Type17 to v2.3, add Type2 Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-02-17 20:33 ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-02-18 10:21 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-02-18 19:17 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-02-18 20:02 ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-02-19 9:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-02-19 22:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] SMBIOS: Update Type 4, 17 structs to v2.3 of the spec Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-02-18 21:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2, Ping] SMBIOS: Upgrade Type17 to v2.3, add Type2 Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-18 21:28 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-19 9:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-02-19 20:40 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-02-19 22:20 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-02-20 15:27 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-02-20 15:38 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-02-20 15:42 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-02-20 16:32 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-02-20 18:07 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-04 19:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] QEMU: SMBIOS: Update all structs to v2.3; Add type 2 struct Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-04 19:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2 (RFC)] QEMU: SMBIOS: Build full smbios tables Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-04 20:34 ` Kevin O'Connor
2014-03-05 10:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-03-05 14:48 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-06 9:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-03-06 16:09 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-06 17:04 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2014-03-09 2:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-09 19:18 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-09 23:40 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-09 3:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] SMBIOS: Update all table definitions to smbios spec v2.3 Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-09 3:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] SMBIOS: Rename smbios_set_type1_defaults() for more general use Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-09 3:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] SMBIOS: Streamline setting smbios defaults with macro Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-09 3:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] SMBIOS: Replace type collision check mechanism with bitmaps Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] SMBIOS: Add code to build full smbios tables Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-09 3:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] SMBIOS: Build full tables for types 0 and 1 Gabriel L. Somlo
2014-03-09 3:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] SMBIOS: Remove unused code for passing individual fields to bios Gabriel L. Somlo
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