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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: ehabkost@redhat.com, hutao@cn.fujitsu.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>,
	imammedo@redhat.com, Chen Fan <chen.fan.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	a.motakis@virtualopensystems.com, gaowanlong@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 00/28] Current state of NUMA series, and hostmem improvements
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:20:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5319B99D.7070200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5319B48A.3050500@suse.de>

Il 07/03/2014 12:59, Andreas Färber ha scritto:
> Am 05.03.2014 12:30, schrieb Paolo Bonzini:
>> Il 05/03/2014 12:05, Andreas Färber ha scritto:
>>> I didn't review it in-depth yet, but minor technical issues apart, I
>>> think we need to keep NUMA and CPU separate,
>>
>> I agree.
>
> Here you agreed ...
>
>>> Compare that to:
>>>
>>> /machine
>>>   /node[0] # This is not really telling!
>>>     /socket[0]
>>>       /core[0]
>>>         /thread[0] # So CPUState != thread?
>>>           cpu -> /machine/unassigned/device[0]
>>>   /unassigned
>>>     /device[0]
>>
>> I think this is better; in our world we can have multiple sockets in the
>> same NUMA node.  But CPUState == thread, so you can have just /thread[0]
>> -> /machine/unassigned/device[0].
>
> ... but you seem to have missed my point about separation. Here the
> socket object is a child<> of the NUMA node and would get realized
> together with it but separate from the link<>ed CPUState.

Ah, I didn't think the socket object as anything but a container.  For 
me, "keep NUMA and CPU separate" meant "keep NUMA and CPUState separate".

>> Alternatively, and to keep CPU + NUMA even *more* separate:
>>
>>   /machine
>>     /node[0]
>>        /cpu[0] -> /machine/unassigned/device[0]
>>        ...
>>     /socket[0]
>>        /core[0]
>>           /thread[0] -> /machine/unassigned/device[0]
>>     /unassigned
>>        /device[0]
>
> Now this is pretty much my proposal ;) except that you retained the
> criticized "node" as name and moved "socket[0]" out of
> /machine/unassigned (I had /machine/peripheral in mind for -device) and
> keep the CPUState out of the socket object.
>
> Anthony had requested hot-add to happen via "device_add Xeon4242",
> adding a full socket object with 6 cores at once. In that case CPUState
> needs to be an integral part of that socket-derived device for recursive
> realization. Objects that are just link<>ed to wouldn't get
> automatically realized.

Yes, if you want to do this then you're right and /socket[n] needs to be 
a device.

However, I'd still like it to be mostly a container, and that is why I 
liked the idea of having /node[n] with "flat" links to the actual 
CPUStates (and also memdevs).

>> I think we can.  Children and links look exactly the same from the outside.
>
> Well, we can't qom-get/qom-set a path string from/to a child<> property,
> can we?

We can get it but not set it.  But Stefan's series provides a way to 
make links read-only too, and these links should be read-only I think.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-07 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-04 14:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 00/28] Current state of NUMA series, and hostmem improvements Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 01/28] NUMA: move numa related code to new file numa.c Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 02/28] NUMA: check if the total numa memory size is equal to ram_size Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 17:00   ` Eric Blake
2014-03-04 17:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 03/28] NUMA: Add numa_info structure to contain numa nodes info Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 04/28] NUMA: convert -numa option to use OptsVisitor Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 05/28] NUMA: expand MAX_NODES from 64 to 128 Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 06/28] man: improve -numa doc Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-11 18:53   ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 07/28] qemu-option: introduce qemu_find_opts_singleton Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-05 10:08   ` Andreas Färber
2014-03-07  2:27   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-11 18:55   ` Eduardo Habkost
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 08/28] vl: convert -m to QemuOpts Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-05 10:06   ` Andreas Färber
2014-03-05 10:31     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-05 15:09     ` Igor Mammedov
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 09/28] vl: redo -object parsing Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07  2:56   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-07  7:39     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 10/28] qmp: allow object-add completion handler to get canonical path Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 11/28] qmp: improve error reporting for -object and object-add Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07  3:07   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-07  7:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 12/28] pc: pass QEMUMachineInitArgs to pc_memory_init Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07  3:09   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 13/28] numa: introduce memory_region_allocate_system_memory Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07  3:18   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 14/28] add memdev backend infrastructure Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07  3:31   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 15/28] numa: add -numa node, memdev= option Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 17:52   ` Eric Blake
2014-03-07  5:33   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-07  7:41     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 16/28] memory: reorganize file-based allocation Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07  6:09   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-07  6:34     ` Hu Tao
2014-03-07  7:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 17/28] memory: move mem_path handling to memory_region_allocate_system_memory Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-11  3:50   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-11  8:03     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-12  2:08       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 18/28] memory: add error propagation to file-based RAM allocation Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 19/28] memory: move preallocation code out of exec.c Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 20/28] memory: move RAM_PREALLOC_MASK to exec.c, rename Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 21/28] hostmem: add file-based HostMemoryBackend Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 17:38   ` Eric Blake
2014-03-04 18:12     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07  6:57   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 22/28] hostmem: separate allocation from UserCreatable complete method Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07  7:08   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 23/28] hostmem: add merge and dump properties Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 24/28] hostmem: allow preallocation of any memory region Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 25/28] hostmem: add property to map memory with MAP_SHARED Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 26/28] configure: add Linux libnuma detection Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 27/28] hostmem: add properties for NUMA memory policy Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 14:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 28/28] qmp: add query-memdev Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-04 17:37   ` Eric Blake
2014-03-04 18:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-05  3:50       ` Hu Tao
2014-03-05  8:17         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-05  3:48   ` Hu Tao
2014-03-05 11:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2.1 00/28] Current state of NUMA series, and hostmem improvements Andreas Färber
2014-03-05 11:30   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07 11:59     ` Andreas Färber
2014-03-07 12:20       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-03-07 12:56         ` Igor Mammedov
2014-03-07 13:35           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07 14:54             ` Igor Mammedov

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