From: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: GILR@il.ibm.com, SADEKJ@il.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
quintela@redhat.com, abali@us.ibm.com, EREZH@il.ibm.com,
owasserm@redhat.com, onom@us.ibm.com, hinesmr@cn.ibm.com,
isaku.yamahata@gmail.com, gokul@us.ibm.com, dbulkow@gmail.com,
junqing.wang@cs2c.com.cn, BIRAN@il.ibm.com,
lig.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com, "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] mc: introduce new capabilities to control micro-checkpointing
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 11:38:38 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <533E293E.5090305@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <531F86D6.4080204@redhat.com>
On 03/12/2014 05:57 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
> ---
> qapi-schema.json | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 35 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
>> +# Only for performance testing. (Since 2.x)
>> +#
>> +# @mc-rdma-copy: MC requires creating a local-memory checkpoint before
>> +# transmission to the destination. This requires heavy use of
>> +# memcpy() which dominates the processor pipeline. This option
>> +# makes use of *local* RDMA to perform the copy instead of the CPU.
>> +# Enabled by default only if the migration transport is RDMA.
>> +# Disabled by default otherwise. (Since 2.x)
> How does that work? If I query migration capabilities before requesting
> a migration, what state am I going to read? Is there coupling where I
> would observe the state of this flag change merely because I did some
> other action? And if so, then how do I know that explicitly setting
> this flag won't be undone by similar coupling?
>
> It sounds like you are describing a tri-state option (unspecified so
> default to migration transport, explicitly disabled, explicitly
> enabled); but that doesn't work for something that only lists boolean
> capabilities. The only way around that is to have 2 separate
> capabilities (one on whether to base decision on transport or to honor
> override, and the other to provide the override value which is ignored
> when defaulting by transport).
Yes, now that I think about it, this 'tri-state' possibility is indeed
confusing to the management software. I'll stop this behavior
and instead require that it be manually enabled when needed.
>> +#
>> +# @rdma-keepalive: RDMA connections do not timeout by themselves if a peer
>> +# has disconnected prematurely or failed. User-level keepalives
>> +# allow the migration to abort cleanly if there is a problem with the
>> +# destination host. For debugging, this can be problematic as
>> +# the keepalive may cause the peer to abort prematurely if we are
>> +# at a GDB breakpoint, for example.
>> +# Enabled by default. (Since 2.x)
> Enabled-by-default is an interesting choice, but I suppose it is okay.
I'll rename the command to "rdma-disable-keepalive" and change
the default to "disabled".
- Michael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-04 3:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-18 8:50 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] mc: fault tolerante through micro-checkpointing mrhines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] mc: add documentation for micro-checkpointing mrhines
2014-02-18 12:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-02-19 1:40 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-19 11:27 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-02-20 1:17 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-20 10:09 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-02-20 11:14 ` Li Guang
2014-02-20 14:58 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-20 14:57 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-20 16:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-02-21 4:54 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-21 9:44 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-03-03 6:08 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] mc: timestamp migration_bitmap and KVM logdirty usage mrhines
2014-02-18 10:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-02-19 1:42 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-03-11 21:31 ` Juan Quintela
2014-04-04 3:08 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] mc: introduce a 'checkpointing' status check into the VCPU states mrhines
2014-03-11 21:36 ` Juan Quintela
2014-04-04 3:11 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-03-11 21:40 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-04 3:12 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] mc: support custom page loading and copying mrhines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] rdma: accelerated memcpy() support and better external RDMA user interfaces mrhines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] mc: introduce state machine changes for MC mrhines
2014-02-19 1:00 ` Li Guang
2014-02-19 2:14 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-20 5:03 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-21 8:13 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-24 6:48 ` Li Guang
2014-02-26 2:52 ` Li Guang
2014-03-11 21:57 ` Juan Quintela
2014-04-04 3:50 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] mc: introduce additional QMP statistics for micro-checkpointing mrhines
2014-03-11 21:45 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-04 3:15 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-04-04 4:22 ` Eric Blake
2014-03-11 21:59 ` Juan Quintela
2014-04-04 3:55 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] mc: core logic mrhines
2014-02-19 1:07 ` Li Guang
2014-02-19 2:16 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-19 2:53 ` Li Guang
2014-02-19 4:27 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] mc: configure and makefile support mrhines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] mc: expose tunable parameter for checkpointing frequency mrhines
2014-03-11 21:49 ` Eric Blake
2014-03-11 22:15 ` Juan Quintela
2014-03-11 22:49 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-04 5:29 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-04-04 14:56 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-11 6:10 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-04-04 16:28 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-04-04 16:35 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-04 3:29 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] mc: introduce new capabilities to control micro-checkpointing mrhines
2014-03-11 21:57 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-04 3:38 ` Michael R. Hines [this message]
2014-04-04 4:25 ` Eric Blake
2014-03-11 22:02 ` Juan Quintela
2014-03-11 22:07 ` Eric Blake
2014-04-04 3:57 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-04-04 3:56 ` Michael R. Hines
2014-02-18 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] mc: activate and use MC if requested mrhines
2014-02-18 9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] mc: fault tolerante through micro-checkpointing Li Guang
2014-02-19 1:29 ` Michael R. Hines
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