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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
Cc: qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] spapr: move interrupt allocator to xics
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:38:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53480C5E.6060908@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <534809DC.5050303@ozlabs.ru>


On 11.04.14 17:27, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> On 04/12/2014 12:58 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>> On 11.04.14 16:50, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>> On 04/11/2014 11:58 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>> On 11.04.2014, at 14:38, Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/11/2014 07:24 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>>> On 10.04.14 16:43, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 04/10/2014 11:26 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10.04.14 15:24, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2014 10:51 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 14.03.14 05:18, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The current allocator returns IRQ numbers from a pool and does not
>>>>>>>>>>> support IRQs reuse in any form as it did not keep track of what it
>>>>>>>>>>> previously returned, it only had the last returned IRQ.
>>>>>>>>>>> However migration may change interrupts for devices depending on
>>>>>>>>>>> their order in the command line.
>>>>>>>>>> Wtf? Nonono, this sounds very bogus and wrong. Migration shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>> I put wrong commit message. By change I meant that the default state
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> the destination guest started accepting migration is different from
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> the destination guest became after migration finished. And migration
>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>> avoid changing this default state.
>>>>>>>> Ok, why is the IRQ configuration different?
>>>>>>> Because QEMU creates devices in the order as in the command line, and
>>>>>>> libvirt changes this order - the XML used to create the guest and the
>>>>>>> XML
>>>>>>> which is sends during migration are different. libvirt thinks it is ok
>>>>>>> while it keeps @reg property for (for example) spapr-vscsi devices
>>>>>>> but it
>>>>>>> is not because since the order is different, devices call IRQ
>>>>>>> allocator in
>>>>>>> different order and get different IRQs.
>>>>>> So your patch migrates the current IRQ configuration, but once you
>>>>>> restart
>>>>>> the virtual machine on the destination host it will have different IRQ
>>>>>> numbering again, right?
>>>>> No, why? IRQs are assigned at init time from realize() callbacks (and
>>>>> survive reset) or as a part of ibm,change-msi rtas call which happens in
>>>>> the same order as it only depends on pci addresses and we do not change
>>>>> this either.
>>>> Ok, let me rephrase. If I shut the machine down because I'm doing
>>>> on-disk hibernate and then boot it back up, will the guest find the same
>>>> configuration?
>>> I do not understand what you mean by this. Hibernation by the guest OS
>>> itself or by QEMU? If this involves QEMU exit and QEMU start - then yes,
>> by the guest OS. The host will only see a genuine "shutdown" event. The
>> guest OS will expect the machine to look *the exact same* as before the
>> shutdown.
> Ok. So. I have to implement "irq" property everywhere (PHB is missing
> INTA/B/C/D now) and check if they did not change during migration via those

Hrm. Not sure. Maybe it'd make sense to join next week's call on 
platform device creation. The problem seems pretty closely related.

> VMSTATE.*EQUAL. Correct?

Why would you need this? I think we already said a couple dozen times 
that configuration matching is a bigger problem, no?

> If so (more or less), I still would like to keep patches 1..7.
> In fact, the first one is independent and we need it anyway.
> Yes/no?

Why?

>
>
>>> config may be different. If it is "migrate to file" and then "migrate from
>>> file" (do not know what you call it when migration goes to a pipe which is
>>> "tar") - then config will be the same.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure that's a good solution to the problem. I guess we should
>>>>>> rather aim to make sure that we can make IRQ allocation explicit.
>>>>>> Fundamentally the problem sounds very similar to the PCI slot allocation
>>>>>> which eventually got solved by libvirt specifying the slots manually.
>>>>> We can do that too. Who decides? :)
>>>> The better solution wins :)
>>> We both know who decides ;) I posted series, I need heads up if it is going
>>> the right way or not.
>> It's not :). If a guest may not have different IRQ allocation after
>> migration, it also must not have different IRQ allocation after shutdown +
>> restart.
> Ok. That's good answer, thanks. How does x86 work then? IRQs are hardcoded
> (some are for sure but I do not know about MSI)? Or in order to support

Non-PCI IRQs are hardcoded, yes. PCI IRQs are mapped to one of the 4 PCI 
interrupts which again are hardcoded to IOAPIC interrupt lines after 
some PCI line swizzling.

MSI gets configured by the guest, so it has to make sure MSIs are set up 
identically again after hibernation.


Alex
> migration, the user has to specify IRQs for the devices which may get
> different IRQs depending on things like command line parameters order?

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-11 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-14  4:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] spapr: fix IOMMU and XICS/IRQs migration Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-03-14  4:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] spapr-iommu: add a bus for spapr-iommu devices Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-10 12:40   ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-10 14:40     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-10 14:52       ` Andreas Färber
2014-04-10 15:18         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-03-14  4:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] xics: add flags for interrupts Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-10 12:43   ` Alexander Graf
2014-03-14  4:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] xics: add find_server Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-03-14  4:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] xics: add pre_load() hook to ICSStateClass Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-03-14  4:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] xics: disable flags reset on xics reset Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-03-14  4:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] spapr: move interrupt allocator to xics Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-10 12:51   ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-10 13:24     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-10 13:26       ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-10 14:43         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-11  9:24           ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-11 12:38             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-11 13:58               ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-11 14:50                 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-11 14:58                   ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-11 15:27                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-11 15:38                       ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2014-04-11 16:01                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-11 16:15                           ` Alexander Graf
2014-04-11 16:30                             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-03-14  4:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] spapr: remove @next_irq Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-03-14  7:19   ` Thomas Huth
2014-03-14  4:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] xics: enable interrupt configuration reset on migration Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-04-10 12:55   ` Alexander Graf
2014-03-20  1:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] spapr: fix IOMMU and XICS/IRQs migration Andreas Färber
2014-04-04  5:53 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-05-04 13:56 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2014-05-04 21:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-05-04 23:48     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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