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From: Tom Musta <tommusta@gmail.com>
To: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"\"Doug Kwan (關振德)\"" <dougkwan@google.com>
Cc: Riku Voipio <riku.voipio@iki.fi>,
	"qemu-ppc@nongnu.org" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] configure: Add new target ppc64el-linux-user
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 10:39:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <536BA54B.3080600@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA8E3Kr1crHCNnC7LEpUFWZnKk_8Mi36Uo9ksK=40hEQog@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/8/2014 10:25 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 8 May 2014 16:19, Doug Kwan (關振德) <dougkwan@google.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Tom Musta <tommusta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We have TCG targets for PowerPC that are bi-endian. It would be much nicer
>>> to have to split
>>> user mode by endianness.  If the user loads a BE ELF, then run in BE mode
>>> .... a LE ELF,
>>> then run in LE mode.
>>>
>>> I know there is much hand waving in that statement ... but maybe we can do
>>> better?  ("we" includes
>>> "me" in that statement ... since I offered to Doug to help out with this).
> 
>> To do this, we need to fix the elf load.
> 
> That is far from the only thing that would need changing.
> I really don't recommend trying to do something different
> from the norm here.
> 
> Isn't LE PPC a different ABI anyway? (ELFv2).
> 
> thanks
> -- PMM
> 

It is true that the new LE distros are basing on ELFv2.  But ELFv2 ABI is not
limited to LE.  I chatted with Uli on this very topic and he confirmed that
endianness is specified in the e_ident field of the header.

I believe we have thoroughly demonstrated that the (softmmu) TCG code works
correctly in both settings of MSR[LE], without making compile time decisions.
It doesn't seem like we are that far off ... maybe I don't see the problem
yet.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-08 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-08  8:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Adding new user mode target ppc64el-linux-user Doug Kwan
2014-05-08  8:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] linux-user: Handle ELFv2 PPC64 binaries in user mode Doug Kwan
2014-05-08  8:36   ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08  8:43     ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08  8:45       ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08 13:30       ` Ulrich Weigand
2014-05-08  8:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] PPC: Allow little-endian " Doug Kwan
2014-05-08  8:39   ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08  8:49     ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08  8:55       ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08  9:05         ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08  9:11           ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08  9:24             ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08 12:39     ` Peter Maydell
2014-05-08 12:44       ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08  8:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] configure: Add new target ppc64el-linux-user Doug Kwan
2014-05-08  8:41   ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08  8:46     ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08  8:56       ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08  9:09         ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08 12:18   ` Andreas Färber
2014-05-08 12:28     ` Peter Maydell
2014-05-08 12:45       ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-08 15:57       ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08 14:41   ` Tom Musta
2014-05-08 15:19     ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08 15:25       ` Peter Maydell
2014-05-08 15:32         ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08 15:41           ` Peter Maydell
2014-05-08 15:51             ` Doug Kwan (關振德)
2014-05-08 15:56               ` Peter Maydell
2014-05-08 15:39         ` Tom Musta [this message]
2014-05-08 15:43           ` Peter Maydell

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