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From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: BALATON Zoltan <balaton@eik.bme.hu>
Cc: "Tom Musta" <tommusta@gmail.com>,
	Programmingkid <programmingkidx@gmail.com>,
	qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc]  Help needed testing on ppc
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:37:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A00C6E.9010106@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LMD.2.02.1406171133060.2477@jedlik.phy.bme.hu>


On 17.06.14 11:34, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2014, Alexander Graf wrote:
>> On 17.06.14 01:42, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2014, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>> On 05/07/2014 05:31 PM, Tom Musta wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/6/2014 6:17 PM, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 6 May 2014, Tom Musta wrote:
>>>>>>>> (2) Your patch makes some store instructions compliant with the 
>>>>>>>> most recent ISAs but there are many other instructions that are 
>>>>>>>> not addressed by the patch.  I think fixing only some will be a 
>>>>>>>> future source of confusion.>>
>>>>>> Alex:  do you have an opinion on this?  Are you OK with changing 
>>>>>> masks for a few stores but not all instructions in general?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see someone just test all those load/store 
>>>>> instructions on old CPUs and see whether they fault. If none 
>>>>> faults, we should just be consistent and remove them for all. If 
>>>>> say a 750 really only ignores the Rc bit for stwx for some reason 
>>>>> we should just model it accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> To get some answers to this and other questions that are still open 
>>>> I've made a test program by stripping down yaboot and adding tests 
>>>> to it so that it should be possible to run from Open Firmware as a 
>>>> boot loader. It can be found here:
>>>>
>>>> http://goliat.eik.bme.hu/~balaton/oftest/
>>>>
>>>> The files there are:
>>>> * oftest - an ELF executable that you can put on some device OF can 
>>>> read
>>>>        and run it if it were a boot loader ( e.g. 0> boot 
>>>> hd0,0:\oftest )
>>>> * oftest.hfs.xz - the same file on an 800k HFS volume that can be 
>>>> put on
>>>>        e.g. a USB drive or CD then used as the previous one
>>>> * oftest-src.tar.xz - the source
>>>>
>>>> When run from Open Firmware it should print some information about 
>>>> memory layout, MSR setting, stack location, BAT registers and test 
>>>> the stwx opcode with and without reserved bit which should help us 
>>>> understand better the differences between QEMU and real hardware. I 
>>>> could only test it on QEMU though.
>>>
>>> I've got some results (but more are welcome) which can be seen here:
>>>
>>> http://goliat.eik.bme.hu/~balaton/oftest/results/
>>>
>>> The results show that the stwx instruction with reserved bit set 
>>> does not change status bits and does not generate an exception on 
>>> any CPU tested (G3 and G4) so it is most probably just ignored as we 
>>> thought.
>>
>> [adding qemu-ppc and tom to CC]
>>
>> Tom already commented on this. Is there a pattern that matches all 
>> the indexed load/store instructions or is stwx a one-off?
>
> Is this a question to whom? If to me I don't understand it.

stwx is part of a group of instructions. It's very rare that hardware 
only shows certain behavior (like ignore a reserved bit) for single 
instructions. Usually it happens on complete groups.


Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-17  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-06 10:03 [Qemu-devel] Help needed testing on ppc BALATON Zoltan
2014-05-06 12:20 ` Tom Musta
2014-05-06 23:17   ` BALATON Zoltan
2014-05-07 15:31     ` Tom Musta
2014-05-07 16:59       ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-12  0:49         ` BALATON Zoltan
2014-06-16 23:42           ` BALATON Zoltan
2014-06-17  8:42             ` Alexander Graf
2014-06-17  9:34               ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " BALATON Zoltan
2014-06-17  9:37                 ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2014-06-17 11:05                   ` BALATON Zoltan
2014-06-17 11:54                     ` Tom Musta
2014-06-17 15:17                       ` BALATON Zoltan
2014-06-18 12:40                         ` Tom Musta
2014-06-19 13:21                           ` BALATON Zoltan
2014-06-23 17:07                             ` Alexander Graf
2014-05-20 23:55       ` [Qemu-devel] " BALATON Zoltan

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