From: "Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, jani.nikula@linux.intel.com,
airlied@linux.ie
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] gpu:drm:i915:intel_detect_pch: back to check devfn instead of check class type
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 15:34:11 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53AA7B73.90503@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53AA70C0.2000806@redhat.com>
On 2014/6/25 14:48, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 22/06/2014 10:25, Chen, Tiejun ha scritto:
>> In qemu-upstream, as you commented we can't create this as a ISA class
>> type explicitly.
>
> Note I didn't say that QEMU doesn't like having two ISA bridges.
>
> I commented that the firmware will see two ISA bridges and will try to
> initialize both of them. It currently doesn't just because it only
> knows of two southbridge PCI IDs, and both of them are old or relatively
> old (PIIX3/4 and ICH9).
>
> But what would happen if you did graphics passthrough on a machine with
> an ICH9 southbridge? Your code will create the PIIX4 ISA bridge, and
> will create an ICH9 southbridge just to please the i915 driver. The
> BIOS will recognize the ICH9's vendor/device ids and try to initialize
> it. It will write to the configuration space to set up PCI PIRQ[A-H]
> routing, for example, which makes no sense since your ICH9 is just a
> dummy device.
>
Thanks for your detailed explanation.
> Second problem. Your IGD passthrough code currently works with QEMU's
> PIIX4-based machine. But what happens if you try to extend it, so that
Yes, current xen machine, xenpv, is based on pii4, and also I don't
known if we will plan to migrate to q35 or others. So its hard to
further say more now.
> it works with QEMU's ICH9-based machine? That's a more modern machine
> that has a PCIe chipset and hence has its ISA bridge at 00:1f.0. Now
But even in this case, could we set the real vendor/device ids for that
ISA bridge at 00:1f.0? If not, what's broken?
> you have a conflict.
>
> In other words, if you want IGD passthrough in QEMU, you need a solution
> that is future-proof.
>
>> So we compromise by faking this ISA bridge without ISA
>> class type setting (as I recall you already said this way is slightly
>> better).
>
> It is only slightly better, but the right solution is to fix the driver.
> There is absolutely zero reason why a graphics driver should know
> about the vendor/device ids of the PCH.
This means we have to fix this both on Linux and Windows but I'm not
sure if this is feasible to us.
>
> The right way could be to make QEMU add a vendor-specific capability to
> the video device. The driver can probe for that capability before
Do you mean we can pick two unused offsets in the configuration space of
the video device as a vendor-specific capability to hold the
vendor/device ids of the PCH?
> looking at the PCI bus. QEMU can add the capability to the list, it is
> easy because all accesses to the video device's configuration space trap
> to QEMU. Then you do not need to add fake devices to the machine.
>
> In fact, it would be nice if Intel added such a capability on the next
> generation of integrated graphics, too. On real hardware, ACPI or some
Maybe, but even this would be implemented, shouldn't we need to be
compatible with those old generations?
Thanks
Tiejun
> other kind of firmware can probe the PCH at 00:1f.0 and initialize that
> vendor-specific capability. QEMU would just forward the value from the
> host, so that virtualized guests never depend on the PCH at 00:1f.0.
>
> Paolo
>
>> Maybe we will figure better way in the future. But anyway, this
>> is always registered as 00:15.0, right? So I think the i915 driver can
>> go back to probe the devfn like the native environment.
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-25 7:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-19 9:53 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] gpu:drm:i915:intel_detect_pch: back to check devfn instead of check class type Tiejun Chen
2014-06-20 9:40 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-20 12:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-06-22 8:00 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-20 12:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-22 8:25 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-25 6:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-25 7:34 ` Chen, Tiejun [this message]
2014-06-25 7:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-30 3:13 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-06-30 10:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-07 14:49 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-07 14:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-07 17:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2014-07-07 17:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-07 18:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-10 21:08 ` Tian, Kevin
2014-07-11 6:29 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-11 19:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-11 20:30 ` Tian, Kevin
2014-07-12 10:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [Intel-gfx] [Xen-devel] " Daniel Vetter
2014-06-24 2:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [Intel-gfx] " Zhenyu Wang
2014-06-25 2:28 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-07 14:51 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-06-30 11:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-01 1:52 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-07-02 6:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-02 8:27 ` Chen, Tiejun
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