From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Peter Crosthwaite <peter.crosthwaite@xilinx.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Eric Auger" <eric.auger@linaro.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"qemu-ppc Mailing List" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
"Stalley, Sean" <sean.stalley@intel.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] qom: Allow to make integer qom properties writeable
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:46:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53B3B8D8.507@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEgOgz6=BJCLw8=_khjbB95GWZe_n--x_f=WNDx-iHMGxGGJPA@mail.gmail.com>
On 02.07.14 05:48, Peter Crosthwaite wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
>> We have helper functions to easily expose integers as QOM object properties.
>> However, these are read only.
> I think this is a good idea, and _ptr properties should have some write-ability.
>
>> Let's introduce some easy helpers that would
>> just write to the values.
>>
>> We also add a new parameter to the property registration that allows us to
>> specify the setter function. If we need special magic to happen, we can make
>> it happen in our own setters. Otherwise we can just use one of the provided
>> helper setters that implement generic value writes for integers.
>>
>> With this we can easily create read-write qom variables, but maintain the
>> flexibility to diverge slightly from the default case.
>>
> But I think it's inconsistent that the read path is automatic and
> write path required an open-coded callback to be added. If you need
> open-codedness then it can be achieved with just raw
> object_property_set. The real issue is that the other side (e.g. the
> read handler for a side-effected write) will need to be open coded too
> leading to mass boiler plate (is this the problem you are trying to
> solve?).
I was trying to think of a nice middle ground between flexibility that's
needed and flexibility that's required. I think it's very common to have
* read-only properties
* read-write properties
* read-write properties with special handling for the write path
(checks mostly, boundary or permission)
> I think we can minimise the number of core QOM API use cases while
> achieving your goal by:
>
> 1: Leaving the _ptr APIs as minimal having no open-coded capability.
> 2: Adding global trivial getter and setter fns that can be passed to
> the lower level object_property_add.
That'd be an alternative approach - I would just open codedly call
object_property_add with the global helpers then. I'm not sure that's
incredibly nicer though.
In the code flow you describe above, a read-only accessor would be
declared the same way it does today. Read-write ones would already have
to go via object_property_add.
So we either add clumsy code in the actual user files (which we try to
reduce) or we end up adding another set of _rw functions (which is what
I did at first - it's ugly) or we add an enum as parameter (which I did
then, but it's also ugly, see next email).
I'm not passionate about the approach I ended up taking, but I couldn't
think of a better middle ground. If you are passionate about it though I
can easily declare the getters public as well and just use
object_property_add() explicitly.
> When one side of a property (either read or write) has a side effect,
> go open-coded (you can also call the trivial setter/getter from your
> open coded fn for the actual ptr read/write to avoid device code
> having to manage visitors). Then add the trivial setter/getter for the
> other side. LOC should be roughly the same as this soln.
>
> This also supports the rarer case of a property with read side effects
> (can't think of a use case yet but i sure it's out there).
Yeah, I can't really think of too many properties that really should
have read side effects ;).
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-02 7:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-01 21:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] Dynamic sysbus device allocation support Alexander Graf
2014-07-01 21:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] qom: macroify integer property helpers Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 3:29 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2014-07-02 7:39 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-01 21:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] qom: Allow to make integer qom properties writeable Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 3:48 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2014-07-02 7:46 ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2014-07-01 21:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] sysbus: Add user map hints Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 4:12 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2014-07-02 8:24 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 8:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 9:03 ` Peter Crosthwaite
2014-07-02 9:07 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 9:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 9:19 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 9:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-01 21:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] sysbus: Make devices spawnable via -device Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 6:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-02 15:36 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-01 21:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] PPC: e500: Support dynamically spawned sysbus devices Alexander Graf
2014-07-01 22:50 ` Scott Wood
2014-07-02 17:12 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 17:26 ` Scott Wood
2014-07-02 17:30 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 17:52 ` Scott Wood
2014-07-02 17:59 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 19:34 ` Scott Wood
2014-07-02 20:59 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-01 21:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] e500: Add support for eTSEC in device tree Alexander Graf
2014-07-01 22:56 ` Scott Wood
2014-07-02 17:24 ` Alexander Graf
2014-07-02 17:32 ` Scott Wood
2014-07-02 17:34 ` Alexander Graf
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