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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] hw/block/virtio-blk: create num_queues vqs if dataplane is enabled
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:52:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53DA03BF.7030809@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVMgLDUa8aMtcGP4=hDUi__gUn2=vs1a=PEbx=w3Gs9XyA@mail.gmail.com>

Il 31/07/2014 05:47, Ming Lei ha scritto:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Il 30/07/2014 17:12, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dataplane must not be a change to the guest ABI.  If you implement this
>>>>> feature you have to implement it for both dataplane and non-dataplne.
>>>>>
> 
> IMO, no matter if the feature is set or not, both old and new VM
> can support it well.
> 
> Per virtio spec, only the feature is set, the VM can be allowed to
> access the 'num_queues' field, and I didn't see any problem from
> VM's view point.
> 
> So could you explain why both dataplane and non-dataplane have
> to support the feature.

Because otherwise you change the guest ABI.

> I am doing so because there isn't performance advantage to take mq
> for non-dataplane.

It doesn't matter, changing features between dataplane and non-dataplane
is not something that you can do.

>>> Actually, I think different backends at runtime should be allowed to
>>> change guest visible ABI.  For example if you give qemu a read only
>>> backend this is guest visible right?
>>
>> Dataplane is not meant to be a different backend, it's just moving stuff
>> out to a separate thread.  It's only due to QEMU limitation that it
>> doesn't share the vring code (and these patches include a lot of steps
>> backwards where dataplane becomes != non-dataplane).
> 
> There won't lots of backwards steps, just the bypass co patch, which
> is just bypassing co in case of being unnecessary for raw image case,
> but it is still one code path.

Using the object pool for dataplane only is a backwards step,
implementing multique for dataplane only is a backwards step, bypassing
coroutines for dataplane only is a backwards step.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-31  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-30 11:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/14] dataplane: optimization and multi virtqueue support Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/15] qemu coroutine: support bypass mode Ming Lei
2014-07-30 13:45   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-30 17:15     ` Ming Lei
2014-07-30 23:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-31  3:55         ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31  7:37           ` Benoît Canet
2014-07-31  9:47             ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31 10:45               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-01 13:38                 ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31  8:59         ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31  9:15           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-31 10:06             ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31 16:13             ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31 16:30               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-01  2:54                 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-01 13:13                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-08-01 13:48                     ` Ming Lei
2014-08-01 14:17                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-01 15:21                         ` Ming Lei
2014-08-01 14:52                       ` Ming Lei
2014-08-01 16:03                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-08-02  2:42                           ` Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/15] qemu aio: prepare for supporting selective bypass coroutine Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/15] block: support to bypass qemu coroutinue Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/15] Revert "raw-posix: drop raw_get_aio_fd() since it is no longer used" Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/15] dataplane: enable selective bypassing coroutine Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/15] qemu/obj_pool.h: introduce object allocation pool Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/15] dataplane: use object pool to speed up allocation for virtio blk request Ming Lei
2014-07-30 14:14   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-30 15:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-31  3:22     ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31  9:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-01  7:42         ` Ming Lei
2014-08-04 10:21           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-08-04 11:42             ` Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/15] virtio: decrease size of VirtQueueElement Ming Lei
2014-07-30 13:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-30 14:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-30 14:50       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-31  2:11       ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31  2:07     ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31  9:38       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-01  3:34         ` Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/15] linux-aio: fix submit aio as a batch Ming Lei
2014-07-30 13:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-30 17:32     ` Ming Lei
2014-07-30 23:41       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/15] linux-aio: increase max event to 256 Ming Lei
2014-07-30 12:15   ` Eric Blake
2014-07-30 14:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-30 17:20     ` Ming Lei
2014-08-04 10:26       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/15] linux-aio: remove 'node' from 'struct qemu_laiocb' Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/15] hw/virtio-pci: introduce num_queues property Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/15] hw/virtio/virtio-blk.h: introduce VIRTIO_BLK_F_MQ Ming Lei
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/15] hw/block/virtio-blk: create num_queues vqs if dataplane is enabled Ming Lei
2014-07-30 14:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-30 15:12     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-07-30 15:25       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-31  3:47         ` Ming Lei
2014-07-31  8:52           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-08-01  3:09             ` Ming Lei
2014-08-01  3:24               ` Ming Lei
2014-08-01  6:10               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-08-01  7:35                 ` Ming Lei
2014-08-01  7:46                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/15] dataplane: virtio-blk: support mutlti virtqueue Ming Lei
2014-07-30 12:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/14] dataplane: optimization and multi virtqueue support Christian Borntraeger
2014-08-04 10:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2014-08-04 10:45   ` Ming Lei

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