From: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
ehabkost@redhat.com, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 16:20:46 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53c37321-52d2-732c-19fb-8f6a9542c714@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180605084300.GF32286@redhat.com>
On 06/05/2018 11:43 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:27:46AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>>> Add to that shortcuts like -cdrom
>>>> stop working,
>>> Maybe is fixable.
>> Already fixed for ages.
>>
>>> I see marking Q35 as the default machine a first step.
>> Maybe the better option is to go the arm route: Just don't define a
>> default, so users have to specify pc or q35. That will make them notice
>> there is a world beside 'pc', and we also avoid breaking things
>> silently.
It can work, sure. And we can add user hints: "Use q35 for ...., select
pc if..."
> If QEMU removes the default, then libvirt will have to hardcode
> 'pc' as the default to maintain back compatibility, so I don't
> think that ends up as a net win
Can't libvirt preserve 'pc' for existing domains, while defaulting to q35
the creation of new domains ? This way it aligns with Gerd's proposal of
no default
x86 machine.
Thanks,
Marcel
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-05 13:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-03 9:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-04 1:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 12:24 ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-04 12:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-04 18:09 ` John Snow
2018-06-04 12:54 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-04 13:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-04 13:26 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-04 17:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 18:30 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-04 16:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-04 16:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-04 18:40 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-04 21:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-04 18:29 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-05 7:27 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-06-05 8:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:06 ` [Qemu-devel] libvirt default machine-type guarantees? (was Re: [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine) Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-05 13:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:35 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-05 13:41 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Pavel Hrdina
2018-06-05 14:03 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-05 14:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 14:36 ` Pavel Hrdina
2018-06-05 14:14 ` Pavel Hrdina
2018-06-05 16:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 16:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:20 ` Marcel Apfelbaum [this message]
2018-06-05 13:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] hw/pc: set q35 as the default x86 machine Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 13:44 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-06-05 13:51 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 16:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 15:56 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-06-05 16:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 16:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-05 16:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 18:05 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-14 8:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-15 2:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-15 9:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-18 17:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-18 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-20 17:28 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-21 7:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-20 17:33 ` Peter Maydell
2018-06-21 7:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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