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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Dovgaluk <Pavel.Dovgaluk@ispras.ru>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] piix: do not raise irq while loading vmstate
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:05:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54101463.2010609@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-7bw-xmbsUAor4eDQqEJxak9PV=R-LVwR5WH+T+72GhA@mail.gmail.com>

Il 10/09/2014 10:51, Peter Maydell ha scritto:
> > What is not okay (and I think it should be a rule) is to touch other
> > devices from post_load, unless you know that they are deserialized
> > first.  For example it's okay for a PCI device to talk to the parent
> > bridge in its post_load function.
> 
> I don't think it's right to talk to another device even if you do
> know it's deserialized first. Talking to it might make it change
> its state, which would be wrong (since its correct state is
> the state it's just deserialized). I would suggest the rule should
> be "never do something that can change the state of another
> device in post-load".

That's harder to do, but if it is possible to do it, it would be great
as well.

It would not surprise me to find a case where the parent device actually
_expects_ the children's post_load to inform it about something, instead
of serializing that part of state on its own.

Paolo

> (We have similar issues with reset, except worse in that we
> don't have a coherent rule to cause everything to come out
> of reset in the right state.)

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-10  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-09 12:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] x86: migrate more data Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] vl: use QLIST_FOREACH_SAFE to visit change state handlers Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:09   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] apic_common: vapic_paddr synchronization fix Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:10   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-09 14:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-09 14:26     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10  6:55   ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] cpu: init vmstate for ticks and clock offset Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:25   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-09 13:26     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] pcspk: adding vmstate for save/restore Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:26   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-09 13:28     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10 12:02       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-10 10:59         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10 12:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-10 11:24             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] fdc: " Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:29   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] parallel: " Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:32   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-09 13:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10 12:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-10 11:16         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] serial: fixing " Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:59   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-09 16:24     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10 11:24       ` Pavel Dovgaluk
2014-09-10 10:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] pckbd: adding new fields to vmstate Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:07   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-10 10:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] piix: do not raise irq while loading vmstate Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 13:37   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-09 13:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-09 17:16     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 20:51       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-10  8:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10  8:51           ` Peter Maydell
2014-09-10  9:05             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-09-10 10:20               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-10 10:50           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-10  9:58             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10 11:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-10 10:07                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10 11:26                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-09 12:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] mc146818rtc: add missed field to vmstate Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-09 12:58   ` Juan Quintela
2014-09-10 10:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] x86: migrate more data Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-10 11:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-10 10:58     ` Paolo Bonzini

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