From: "Chen, Tiejun" <tiejun.chen@intel.com>
To: "Kay, Allen M" <allen.m.kay@intel.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/2] xen:i386:pc_piix: create isa bridge specific to IGD passthrough
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:38:43 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54279EE3.3050208@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54277979.7070408@intel.com>
On 2014/9/28 10:59, Chen, Tiejun wrote:
> On 2014/9/3 9:40, Kay, Allen M wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chen, Tiejun
>>> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 12:50 AM
>>> To: Michael S. Tsirkin
>>> Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com; Kay, Allen M; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
>>> Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
>>> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCH 2/2] xen:i386:pc_piix:
>>> create
>>> isa bridge specific to IGD passthrough
>>>
>>> On 2014/9/1 14:05, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 10:50:37AM +0800, Chen, Tiejun wrote:
>>>>> On 2014/8/31 16:58, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 09:28:50AM +0800, Chen, Tiejun wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2014/8/28 8:56, Chen, Tiejun wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + dev = pci_create_simple(bus, PCI_DEVFN(0x1f, 0),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "xen-igd-passthrough-isa-bridge");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + if (dev) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + r = xen_host_pci_device_get(&hdev, 0, 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + PCI_DEVFN(0x1f,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0), 0);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + if (!r) {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + pci_config_set_vendor_id(dev->config,
>>> hdev.vendor_id);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + pci_config_set_device_id(dev->config,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + hdev.device_id);
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you, instead, implement the reverse logic, probing the card
>>>>>>>>>>> and supplying the correct device id for PCH?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here what is your so-called reverse logic as I already asked you
>>>>>>>>>> previously? Do you mean I should list all PCHs with a combo
>>>>>>>>>> illustrated with the vendor/device id in advance? Then look up
>>>>>>>>>> if we can find a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ping.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Tiejun
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could you explain this exactly? Then I can try follow-up your
>>>>>>>>> idea ASAP if this is necessary and possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you give us some explanation for your "reverse logic" when
>>>>>>> you're free?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Tiejun
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So future drivers will look at device ID for the card and figure out
>>>>>> how things should work from there.
>>>>>> Old drivers still poke at device id of the chipset for this, but
>>>>>> maybe qemu can do what newer drivers do:
>>>>>> look at the card and figure out what guest should do, then present
>>>>>> the appropriate chipset id.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is based on what Jesse said:
>>>>>> Practically speaking, we could probably assume specific GPU/PCH
>>> combos,
>>>>>> as I don't think they're generally mixed across generations,
>>>>>> though
>>> SNB
>>>>>> and IVB did have compatible sockets, so there is the
>>>>>> possibility of
>>>>>> mixing CPT and PPT PCHs, but those are register identical as
>>>>>> far as the
>>>>>> graphics driver is concerned, so even that should be safe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>>> so the idea is to have a reverse table mapping GPU back to PCH.
>>>>>> Present to guest the ID that will let it assume the correct GPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you mean we should create to maintain such a table:
>>>>>
>>>>> [GPU Card: device_id(s), PCH: device_id]
>>>>>
>>>>> Then each time, instead of exposing that real PCH device id directly,
>>>>> qemu first can get the real GPU device id to lookup this table to
>>>>> present a appropriate PCH's device id to the guest.
>>>>>
>>>>> And looks here that appropriate PCH's device id is not always a that
>>>>> real PCH's device id. Right? If I'm wrong please correct me.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly: we don't really care what the PCH ID is - we only need it for
>>>> the guest driver to do the right thing.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> I need to ask Allen to check if one given GPU card device id is always
>>> corresponding to one given PCH on both HSW and BDW currently. If yes,
>>> I can
>>> do this quickly. Otherwise I need some time to establish that sort
>>> of connection.
>
> Michael,
>
> Sorry for this delay response but please keep in mind we really are in
> this process.
>
> You know this involve different GPU components we have to take some time
> to communicate or even discuss internal.
>
> Now I have a draft codes, could you take a look at this? I hope that
> comment can help us to understand something, but if you have any
> question, we can further respond inline.
>
> ---
> typedef struct {
> uint16_t gpu_device_id;
> uint16_t pch_device_id;
> } XenIGDDeviceIDInfo;
>
> /* In real world different GPU should have different PCH. But actually
> * the different PCH DIDs likely map to different PCH SKUs. We do the
> * same thing for the GPU. For PCH, the different SKUs are going to be
> * all the same silicon design and implementation, just different
> * features turn on and off with fuses. The SW interfaces should be
> * consistent across all SKUs in a given family (eg LPT). But just same
> * features may not be supported.
> *
> * Most of these different PCH features probably don't matter to the
> * Gfx driver, but obviously any difference in display port connections
> * will so it should be fine with any PCH in case of passthrough.
> *
> * So currently use one PCH version, 0x8c4e, to cover all HSW scenarios,
> * 0x9cc3 for BDW.
> */
> static const XenIGDDeviceIDInfo xen_igd_combo_id_infos[] = {
> /* HSW Classic */
> {0x0402, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT1D, HSWD_w7 */
> {0x0406, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT1M, HSWM_w7 */
> {0x0412, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT2D, HSWD_w7 */
> {0x0416, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT2M, HSWM_w7 */
> {0x041E, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT15D, HSWD_w7 */
> /* HSW ULT */
> {0x0A06, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT1UT, HSWM_w7 */
> {0x0A16, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT2UT, HSWM_w7 */
> {0x0A26, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT3UT, HSWM_w7 */
> {0x0A2E, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT3UT28W, HSWM_w7 */
> {0x0A1E, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT2UX, HSWM_w7 */
> {0x0A0E, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT1ULX, HSWM_w7 */
> /* HSW CRW */
> {0x0D26, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT3CW, HSWM_w7 */
> {0x0D22, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWGT3CWDT, HSWD_w7 */
> /* HSW Server */
> {0x041A, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWSVGT2, HSWD_w7 */
> /* HSW SRVR */
> {0x040A, 0x8c4e}, /* HSWSVGT1, HSWD_w7 */
> /* BSW */
> {0x1606, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWULTGT1, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x1616, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWULTGT2, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x1626, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWULTGT3, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x160E, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWULXGT1, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x161E, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWULXGT2, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x1602, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWHALOGT1, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x1612, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWHALOGT2, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x1622, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWHALOGT3, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x162B, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWHALO28W, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x162A, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWGT3WRKS, BDWM_w7 */
> {0x162D, 0x9cc3}, /* BDWGT3SRVR, BDWM_w7 */
> };
>
> static void xen_igd_passthrough_pciisabridge_get_pci_device_id(Object *obj,
> Visitor *v,
> void
> *opaque,
> const
> char *name,
> Error
> **errp)
> {
> uint32_t value = 0;
> XenHostPCIDevice hdev;
> int r = 0, num;
>
> r = xen_host_pci_device_get(&hdev, 0, 0, 0x02, 0);
> if (!r) {
> value = hdev.device_id;
>
> num = sizeof(xen_igd_combo_id_infos)/sizeof(uint16_t);
Sorry for this one typo:
sizeof(xen_igd_combo_id_infos)/sizeof(xen_igd_combo_id_infos[0]);
Tiejun
> for (r = 0; r < num; r++)
> if (value == xen_igd_combo_id_infos[r].gpu_device_id)
> value = xen_igd_combo_id_infos[r].pch_device_id;
> }
>
> visit_type_uint32(v, &value, name, errp);
> }
>
> static void xen_igd_passthrough_isa_bridge_initfn(Object *obj)
> {
> object_property_add(obj, "device-id", "int",
>
> xen_igd_passthrough_pciisabridge_get_pci_device_id,
> NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL);
> }
>
> Thanks
> Tiejun
>
>
>>>
>>
>> If I understand this correctly, the only difference is instead of
>> reading PCH DevID/RevID from the host hardware, QEMU inserts those
>> values into PCH virtual device by looking at the reverse mapping table
>> it maintains.
>>
>> I agree the downside of doing this is the reverse mapping table may be
>> hard to maintain.
>>
>> What is the advantage of doing this instead of having QEMU reading it
>> from the host? Is it to test to make sure reverse mapping methods
>> works before it is adopted in the new drivers?
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tiejun
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the problem with these tables is they are hard to keep up to date
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah. But I think currently we can just start from some modern CPU
>>>>> such as HSW and BDW, then things could be easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allen,
>>>>>
>>>>> Any idea to this suggestion?
>>>>>
>>>>>> as new hardware comes out, but as future hardware won't need these
>>>>>> hacks, we shall be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Tiejun
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Tiejun
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> matched PCH? If yes, what is that benefit you expect in
>>>>>>>>>> passthrough case? Shouldn't we pass these info to VM directly in
>>> passthrough case?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Tiejun
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Allen
>>
>>
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-28 5:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-21 1:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] qemu:xen: implement isa bridge specific to IGD passthrough Tiejun Chen
2014-08-21 1:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] hw:xen:xen_pt: register " Tiejun Chen
2014-08-21 1:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] xen:i386:pc_piix: create " Tiejun Chen
2014-08-21 16:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-08-22 1:06 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-24 11:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-08-25 5:18 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-26 2:49 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-28 0:56 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-29 1:28 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-31 8:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-01 2:50 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-09-01 6:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-01 7:49 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-09-03 1:40 ` Kay, Allen M
2014-09-03 6:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-03 15:06 ` Kay, Allen M
2014-09-28 2:59 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-09-28 5:38 ` Chen, Tiejun [this message]
2014-10-07 7:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-09 2:16 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-09-29 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-09-30 2:43 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-07 1:02 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-07 7:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-09 5:53 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-12 9:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-24 7:36 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-10-24 13:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-10-30 7:47 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-11-03 7:48 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-11-03 11:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-03 11:36 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-11-03 11:47 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-11-03 12:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-03 13:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2014-11-05 7:23 ` Chen, Tiejun
2014-08-22 18:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
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