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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Jeff Cody <jcody@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Image probing: how it can be insecure, and what we could do about it
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:02:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <545B715A.6090300@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sihwv6s1.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

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On 11/06/2014 01:43 PM, Markus Armbruster wrote:

>> Actually, qed requires the backing format to be recorded (it is
>> non-optional) and is therefore immune to probing problems of backing
>> files.  That's one thing it got right.
> 
> If I read the code correctly:
> 
> QED has a feature bit QED_F_BACKING_FORMAT_NO_PROBE.
> 
> It is changed when you set the backing file format.  Setting format to
> "raw" sets the flag, anything else (including nothing) clears the flag.
> The actual non-raw format is not recorded.
> 
> Creating an image counts as setting the backing file format.
> 
> If the flag is set, open uses "raw"for the backing file (no probing).
> 
> If it's unset, open probes, and the probe may yield "raw".

Eww.  Well, looks like a deficiency in the qed spec, and maybe all that
is needed to plug it is:

If the probe yields "raw", refuse to open the backing file (or put
another way, either the probe MUST find a non-raw file, or the user has
a bug that they forgot to set the raw bit so we refuse to open the file
to point out their bug).

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-06 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-04 18:45 [Qemu-devel] Image probing: how it can be insecure, and what we could do about it Markus Armbruster
2014-11-04 20:33 ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-05  7:04   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-05  7:30 ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-05  8:38 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-05 10:18   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-06 12:43     ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-06 13:02       ` Eric Blake [this message]
2014-11-05 11:15   ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-06 12:26   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-06 12:53     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-06 14:56       ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-06 15:00         ` Max Reitz
2014-11-07 14:52           ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-07 15:17             ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10  7:58               ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-07  9:57       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-06 13:02     ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-07 14:50       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-05 10:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-05 10:33 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-06 12:52   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-05 11:01 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-06 13:57   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-06 14:14     ` Eric Blake
2014-11-06 15:52       ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-06 14:35     ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-06 15:01     ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-07 15:21       ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-07 17:33         ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-10  8:12           ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-10  9:14             ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-10 10:30               ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-10 14:24                 ` Jeff Cody
2014-11-11  8:28                   ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-10  8:13         ` Markus Armbruster
2014-11-05 15:24 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-11-06 13:04   ` Markus Armbruster

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