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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "tech@virtualopensystems.com" <tech@virtualopensystems.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Linaro-acpi] [RFC PATCH 0/7] hw/arm/virt: Dynamic ACPI v5.1 table generation
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:57:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <545B9A7B.80101@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <545B1ACF.4090600@linaro.org>

On 06/11/2014 07:53, Hanjun Guo wrote:
>> So the important question is _why_ the guest needs to see an ACPI
>> environment. What exactly can ACPI provide to the guest that DT does not
>> already provide, and why is that necessary? What infrastrucutre is
>> needed for that use case?
> 
> There is important feature called system device dynamic reconfiguration,
> you know, hot-add/remove, if a gust need more/less memory or CPU, can we
> add or remove them dynamically with DT? ACPI can do this, but I have no
> idea if DT can. (Sorry, I don't know much about DT)

Indeed hot-add/remove is the single biggest AML user in x86 QEMU.
Whether you really need it, it depends on what you are adding/removing.

For PCI there is no problem.  We can use PCIe from the beginning, and
use PCIe hotplug support that is already in QEMU.

Memory and CPU are more problematic.  For memory we could perhaps use a
PCI memory device, though I'm not sure if that would require drivers in
the OS or everything just works.

CPU hotplug, however, probably requires AML.  Of course it can be
generated in the firmware, like we used to do for x86, but Igor
explained why it wasn't a great idea.  That said, one of the problems
("never ending expansion of PV QEMU-BIOS interface") could be less
important since ARM DT is a better interface than x86 fw_cfg.

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-06 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-30 17:43 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/7] hw/arm/virt: Dynamic ACPI v5.1 table generation Alexander Spyridakis
2014-10-30 17:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/7] hw/i386: Move ACPI header definitions in an arch-independent location Alexander Spyridakis
2014-10-30 17:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/7] hw/arm/virt-acpi: Basic skeleton for dynamic generation of ACPI tables Alexander Spyridakis
2014-10-30 17:46   ` Peter Maydell
2014-10-30 17:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/7] hw/arm/virt: Dynamic ACPI v5.1 table generation Peter Maydell
2014-10-30 18:02   ` [Qemu-devel] [Linaro-acpi] " Mark Rutland
2014-11-05  9:58     ` Claudio Fontana
2014-11-06 12:44       ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-06 12:57         ` Igor Mammedov
2014-11-06 13:33         ` Alexander Spyridakis
2014-11-06 13:52           ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-11 15:29           ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-11 16:31             ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-11 16:48               ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-11 21:33                 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 10:38                   ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 10:44                     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 10:55                       ` Julien Grall
2014-11-12 11:07                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 11:38                         ` Graeme Gregory
2014-11-12 11:52                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 12:04                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 12:12                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 13:27                         ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-12 13:32                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 15:01                           ` Claudio Fontana
2014-11-12 15:32                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 15:39                               ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-12 15:52                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 15:57                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 16:04                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 16:13                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 16:25                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 17:33                                           ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-13  8:32                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-13  8:14                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-13  8:10                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-13 18:16                             ` Al Stone
2014-11-13 19:22                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-14  7:54                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-12  9:08             ` Claudio Fontana
2014-11-12 10:56               ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 11:15                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 11:34                   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 11:48                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 12:18                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 12:27                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 12:40                           ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 13:08                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 13:27                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 13:41                           ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 13:59                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 14:10                               ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 14:46                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 13:03                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 13:35                       ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 11:55                   ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 18:10               ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-13  9:57                 ` Claudio Fontana
2014-11-17 17:52                   ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-06  6:53     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-06 13:30       ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-06 13:33         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-06 15:57       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-11-06 16:18         ` Igor Mammedov
2014-11-06 16:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-07  8:31         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-03-09 12:12   ` Leif Lindholm
2015-03-09 12:28     ` Peter Maydell
2015-03-09 12:47       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-09 14:50       ` Leif Lindholm

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