From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] qcow2: Refcount overflow and qcow2_alloc_bytes()
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:13:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5462359D.4040503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5461C751.3080607@redhat.com>
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On 11/11/2014 01:22 AM, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 2014-11-10 at 22:12, Eric Blake wrote:
>> On 11/10/2014 06:45 AM, Max Reitz wrote:
>>> qcow2_alloc_bytes() may reuse a cluster multiple times, in which case
>>> the refcount is increased accordingly. However, if this would lead to an
>>> overflow the function should instead just not reuse this cluster and
>>> allocate a new one.
>> So if recount_order is 1 (2 bits per refcount, max refcount of 4
>
> *max refcount of 3 (0b11)
Oh right, because 0 is special. Although I think I figured that out...
>
>> ), and
>> we encounter the same cluster 6 times (say by 5 back-to-back internal
>> snapshots), does this code optimize to only 2 clusters (both with
>> refcount 3) or does it result in each of the last 3 clusters spilling to
...when talking about 3 shares of a cluster.
>> its own 1-ref cluster for a total of 4 clusters? Short of Benoit's work
>> on deduplication, is there even a way to avoid inefficient use of
>> spilled clusters?
>
> I'm not sure what you're referring to; maybe I should add that
> qcow2_alloc_bytes() is used for allocating compressed clusters (which
> ideally don't take up a full host cluster), so "reuse" in this context
> just means that several compressed clusters share one host cluster.
No, I was thinking about internal snapshots rather than compressed
clusters (although there's probably some overlap on what happens).
>
> Maybe you're referring to the following situation: We have the default
> cluster size of 64k. Now we're trying to allocate 16k for each of the
> compressed clusters A, B, C and D. D won't fit into that cluster because
> the maximum refcount is three, so it will be put into a newly allocated
> host cluster. Finally, we're trying to allocate 32k for a compressed
> cluster E, which will then be put into the same cluster as D. We
> therefore have the following allocation (each sub-box representing 16k):
>
> +---+---+---+---+ +---+---+---+---+
> |A |B | C | | | D | E | |
> +---+---+---+---+ +---+---+---+---+
>
> whereas the ideal allocation would be:
>
> +---+---+---+---+ +---+---+---+---+
> |A |B | E | | C | D | | |
> +---+---+---+---+ +---+---+---+---+
>
> This is a problem, but I think first it's a minor one (just use a
> sufficiently large refcount width if you're going to use compressed
> clusters) and second it's about compressed clusters, whose performance I
> could hardly care less about, frankly.
No, I was envisioning that we have a brand new image with one cluster
allocated (cluster 1 has refcount 1), then 5 times in a row we do
'savevm' to take an internal snapshot. If I understand your code
correctly, the first two snapshots increase the refcount, so cluster 1
has a refcount of 3. Then the next snapshot can't increase the refcount,
so it instead copies the contents to cluster 2. The fourth and fifth
snapshots also see that cluster 1 is full, and allocate cluster 3 and 4;
whereas a more efficient usage would increase the refcount of cluster 2
instead of allocating.
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Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-10 13:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] qcow2: Support refcount orders != 4 Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/21] qcow2: Add two new fields to BDRVQcowState Max Reitz
2014-11-10 19:00 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/21] qcow2: Add refcount_width to format-specific info Max Reitz
2014-11-10 19:06 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11 8:11 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 15:49 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/21] qcow2: Use 64 bits for refcount values Max Reitz
2014-11-10 20:59 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11 8:12 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 9:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-11 9:25 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 9:26 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 9:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/21] qcow2: Respect error in qcow2_alloc_bytes() Max Reitz
2014-11-10 21:05 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] qcow2: Refcount overflow and qcow2_alloc_bytes() Max Reitz
2014-11-10 21:12 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11 8:22 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 16:13 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2014-11-11 16:18 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 19:49 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 8:52 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/21] qcow2: Helper function for refcount modification Max Reitz
2014-11-10 22:30 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11 8:35 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 9:43 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 10:56 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/21] qcow2: Helper for refcount array size calculation Max Reitz
2014-11-10 22:49 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11 8:37 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 10:08 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/21] qcow2: More helpers for refcount modification Max Reitz
2014-11-11 0:29 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11 8:42 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/21] qcow2: Open images with refcount order != 4 Max Reitz
2014-11-10 17:03 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 17:06 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21] qcow2: refcount_order parameter for qcow2_create2 Max Reitz
2014-11-11 5:40 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11 8:48 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/21] iotests: Prepare for refcount_width option Max Reitz
2014-11-11 17:57 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 8:41 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/21] qcow2: Allow creation with refcount order != 4 Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:05 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 8:47 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/21] block: Add opaque value to the amend CB Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:08 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/21] qcow2: Use error_report() in qcow2_amend_options() Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:11 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 8:47 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/21] qcow2: Use abort() instead of assert(false) Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:12 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 8:48 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/21] qcow2: Split upgrade/downgrade paths for amend Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:14 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] qcow2: Use intermediate helper CB " Max Reitz
2014-11-11 21:05 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 9:10 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/21] qcow2: Add function for refcount order amendment Max Reitz
2014-11-12 4:15 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 9:55 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-12 13:50 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 14:19 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 14:21 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-12 17:45 ` Max Reitz
2014-11-12 20:21 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/21] qcow2: Invoke refcount order amendment function Max Reitz
2014-11-12 4:36 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/21] qcow2: Point to amend function in check Max Reitz
2014-11-12 4:38 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/21] iotests: Add test for different refcount widths Max Reitz
2014-11-11 19:53 ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 8:58 ` Max Reitz
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