qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] qcow2: Refcount overflow and qcow2_alloc_bytes()
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:18:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <546236CD.30301@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5462359D.4040503@redhat.com>

On 2014-11-11 at 17:13, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 11/11/2014 01:22 AM, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 2014-11-10 at 22:12, Eric Blake wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2014 06:45 AM, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>> qcow2_alloc_bytes() may reuse a cluster multiple times, in which case
>>>> the refcount is increased accordingly. However, if this would lead to an
>>>> overflow the function should instead just not reuse this cluster and
>>>> allocate a new one.
>>> So if recount_order is 1 (2 bits per refcount, max refcount of 4
>> *max refcount of 3 (0b11)
> Oh right, because 0 is special.  Although I think I figured that out...
>
>>> ), and
>>> we encounter the same cluster 6 times (say by 5 back-to-back internal
>>> snapshots), does this code optimize to only 2 clusters (both with
>>> refcount 3) or does it result in each of the last 3 clusters spilling to
> ...when talking about 3 shares of a cluster.
>
>>> its own 1-ref cluster for a total of 4 clusters?  Short of Benoit's work
>>> on deduplication, is there even a way to avoid inefficient use of
>>> spilled clusters?
>> I'm not sure what you're referring to; maybe I should add that
>> qcow2_alloc_bytes() is used for allocating compressed clusters (which
>> ideally don't take up a full host cluster), so "reuse" in this context
>> just means that several compressed clusters share one host cluster.
> No, I was thinking about internal snapshots rather than compressed
> clusters (although there's probably some overlap on what happens).
>
>> Maybe you're referring to the following situation: We have the default
>> cluster size of 64k. Now we're trying to allocate 16k for each of the
>> compressed clusters A, B, C and D. D won't fit into that cluster because
>> the maximum refcount is three, so it will be put into a newly allocated
>> host cluster. Finally, we're trying to allocate 32k for a compressed
>> cluster E, which will then be put into the same cluster as D. We
>> therefore have the following allocation (each sub-box representing 16k):
>>
>> +---+---+---+---+   +---+---+---+---+
>> |A |B | C |   |   | D |   E | |
>> +---+---+---+---+   +---+---+---+---+
>>
>> whereas the ideal allocation would be:
>>
>> +---+---+---+---+   +---+---+---+---+
>> |A |B |   E   |   | C | D | | |
>> +---+---+---+---+   +---+---+---+---+
>>
>> This is a problem, but I think first it's a minor one (just use a
>> sufficiently large refcount width if you're going to use compressed
>> clusters) and second it's about compressed clusters, whose performance I
>> could hardly care less about, frankly.
> No, I was envisioning that we have a brand new image with one cluster
> allocated (cluster 1 has refcount 1), then 5 times in a row we do
> 'savevm' to take an internal snapshot.  If I understand your code
> correctly, the first two snapshots increase the refcount, so cluster 1
> has a refcount of 3. Then the next snapshot can't increase the refcount,
> so it instead copies the contents to cluster 2.

No, it just errors out.

qcow2_alloc_bytes() is only used for allocating space for a compressed 
cluster. When taking a snapshot, update_refcount() will be called to 
increase the clusters' refcounts, and that function will simply throw an 
error.

Max

> The fourth and fifth
> snapshots also see that cluster 1 is full, and allocate cluster 3 and 4;
> whereas a more efficient usage would increase the refcount of cluster 2
> instead of allocating.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-11 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-10 13:45 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/21] qcow2: Support refcount orders != 4 Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/21] qcow2: Add two new fields to BDRVQcowState Max Reitz
2014-11-10 19:00   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/21] qcow2: Add refcount_width to format-specific info Max Reitz
2014-11-10 19:06   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11  8:11     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 15:49       ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/21] qcow2: Use 64 bits for refcount values Max Reitz
2014-11-10 20:59   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11  8:12     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11  9:22     ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-11  9:25       ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11  9:26         ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11  9:36         ` Kevin Wolf
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/21] qcow2: Respect error in qcow2_alloc_bytes() Max Reitz
2014-11-10 21:05   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/21] qcow2: Refcount overflow and qcow2_alloc_bytes() Max Reitz
2014-11-10 21:12   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11  8:22     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 16:13       ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11 16:18         ` Max Reitz [this message]
2014-11-11 19:49           ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12  8:52             ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/21] qcow2: Helper function for refcount modification Max Reitz
2014-11-10 22:30   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11  8:35     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11  9:43       ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 10:56       ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/21] qcow2: Helper for refcount array size calculation Max Reitz
2014-11-10 22:49   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11  8:37     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-11 10:08       ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/21] qcow2: More helpers for refcount modification Max Reitz
2014-11-11  0:29   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11  8:42     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/21] qcow2: Open images with refcount order != 4 Max Reitz
2014-11-10 17:03   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 17:06     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/21] qcow2: refcount_order parameter for qcow2_create2 Max Reitz
2014-11-11  5:40   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-11  8:48     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/21] iotests: Prepare for refcount_width option Max Reitz
2014-11-11 17:57   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12  8:41     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/21] qcow2: Allow creation with refcount order != 4 Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:05   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12  8:47     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/21] block: Add opaque value to the amend CB Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:08   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/21] qcow2: Use error_report() in qcow2_amend_options() Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:11   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12  8:47     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/21] qcow2: Use abort() instead of assert(false) Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:12   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12  8:48     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/21] qcow2: Split upgrade/downgrade paths for amend Max Reitz
2014-11-11 18:14   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/21] qcow2: Use intermediate helper CB " Max Reitz
2014-11-11 21:05   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12  9:10     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/21] qcow2: Add function for refcount order amendment Max Reitz
2014-11-12  4:15   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12  9:55     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-12 13:50       ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 14:19   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12 14:21     ` Max Reitz
2014-11-12 17:45       ` Max Reitz
2014-11-12 20:21         ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/21] qcow2: Invoke refcount order amendment function Max Reitz
2014-11-12  4:36   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/21] qcow2: Point to amend function in check Max Reitz
2014-11-12  4:38   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-10 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/21] iotests: Add test for different refcount widths Max Reitz
2014-11-11 19:53   ` Eric Blake
2014-11-12  8:58     ` Max Reitz

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=546236CD.30301@redhat.com \
    --to=mreitz@redhat.com \
    --cc=eblake@redhat.com \
    --cc=kwolf@redhat.com \
    --cc=pl@kamp.de \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=stefanha@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).