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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org" <linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org>,
	Paul Mundt <Paul.Mundt@huawei.com>,
	Claudio Fontana <claudio.fontana@huawei.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Jani Kokkonen <Jani.Kokkonen@huawei.com>,
	"tech@virtualopensystems.com" <tech@virtualopensystems.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Linaro-acpi] [RFC PATCH 0/7] hw/arm/virt: Dynamic ACPI v5.1 table generation
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:46:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <546372BD.1050705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141112141059.GH28015@leverpostej>



On 12/11/2014 15:10, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>> We can't just pick-and-mix
>>> portions of ACPI and state that it's specified and standard.
>>
>> But that's what you already do if you want to build ACPI tables from DT.
>>  You are already picking-and-mixing the variable portions of the ACPI
>> tables and make a DT bindings for them.
> 
> I don't follow. I argued _against_ trying to build ACPI tables from DT
> because the two don't quite match up anyway. I argued _against_ trying
> to convert ACPI tables to DT in prior discussions for similar reasons.

Sorry, that was not you-Mark, but more you-ARM.

And in fact I'd tend to agree with you, but if there are people that
want not to use ACPI or UEFI or both, I think it's better if the UEFI
firmware swallows the same pill and builds ACPI from DT.

> In addition to fixing up the other specs which are affected by this
> (e.g. how we describe those additional CPUs). There's also some
> de-ACPIing to be done in addition to de-x86ification, and we need to be
> careful to ensure we have access to all the information we require in
> the absence of ACPI, and that we have a well defined behaviour on both
> sides of the interface for what would previously have been implicit in
> ACPI.

Yes, I agree.  On the QEMU side the de-ACPIfication would have to be
done anyway (no GPE because of the reduced hardware), but you need extra
de-ACPIfication for stuff like the SRAT.

> I'm not saying that this is impossible. It's just a greater body of work
> than modifying one spec.

No doubt about that.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-12 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-30 17:43 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/7] hw/arm/virt: Dynamic ACPI v5.1 table generation Alexander Spyridakis
2014-10-30 17:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/7] hw/i386: Move ACPI header definitions in an arch-independent location Alexander Spyridakis
2014-10-30 17:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/7] hw/arm/virt-acpi: Basic skeleton for dynamic generation of ACPI tables Alexander Spyridakis
2014-10-30 17:46   ` Peter Maydell
2014-10-30 17:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/7] hw/arm/virt: Dynamic ACPI v5.1 table generation Peter Maydell
2014-10-30 18:02   ` [Qemu-devel] [Linaro-acpi] " Mark Rutland
2014-11-05  9:58     ` Claudio Fontana
2014-11-06 12:44       ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-06 12:57         ` Igor Mammedov
2014-11-06 13:33         ` Alexander Spyridakis
2014-11-06 13:52           ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-11 15:29           ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-11 16:31             ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-11 16:48               ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-11 21:33                 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 10:38                   ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 10:44                     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 10:55                       ` Julien Grall
2014-11-12 11:07                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 11:38                         ` Graeme Gregory
2014-11-12 11:52                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 12:04                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 12:12                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 13:27                         ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-12 13:32                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 15:01                           ` Claudio Fontana
2014-11-12 15:32                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 15:39                               ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-12 15:52                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 15:57                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 16:04                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 16:13                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 16:25                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 17:33                                           ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-13  8:32                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-13  8:14                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-13  8:10                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-13 18:16                             ` Al Stone
2014-11-13 19:22                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-14  7:54                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2014-11-12  9:08             ` Claudio Fontana
2014-11-12 10:56               ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 11:15                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 11:34                   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 11:48                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 12:18                       ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 12:27                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 12:40                           ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 13:08                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 13:27                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 13:41                           ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 13:59                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-12 14:10                               ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 14:46                                 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-11-12 13:03                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-12 13:35                       ` Christoffer Dall
2014-11-12 11:55                   ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-12 18:10               ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-13  9:57                 ` Claudio Fontana
2014-11-17 17:52                   ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-06  6:53     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-06 13:30       ` Mark Rutland
2014-11-06 13:33         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-06 15:57       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-06 16:18         ` Igor Mammedov
2014-11-06 16:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-11-07  8:31         ` Hanjun Guo
2015-03-09 12:12   ` Leif Lindholm
2015-03-09 12:28     ` Peter Maydell
2015-03-09 12:47       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-03-09 14:50       ` Leif Lindholm

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