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From: Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>, Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
Cc: Ekaterina Tumanova <tumanova@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	qemu devel list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Qiao Nuohan <qiaonuohan@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com>,
	kumagai-atsushi@mxc.nes.nec.co.jp, crash-utility@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] uniquely identifying KDUMP files that originate from QEMU
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:48:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54637322.5060101@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54636A42.9020508@redhat.com>

Thanks Petr and Laszlo for entertaining my questions. I've got one last one if
you have the time.

On 11/12/2014 09:10 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 11/12/14 14:26, Petr Tesarik wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:18:04 -0500
>> Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/12/2014 03:05 AM, Petr Tesarik wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:27:44 -0500
>>>> Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/11/2014 06:22 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
>>>>>> (Note: I'm not subscribed to either qemu-devel or the kexec list; please
>>>>>> keep me CC'd.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> QEMU is able to dump the guest's memory in KDUMP format (kdump-zlib,
>>>>>> kdump-lzo, kdump-snappy) with the "dump-guest-memory" QMP command.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The resultant vmcore is usually analyzed with the "crash" utility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original tool producing such files is kdump. Unlike the procedure
>>>>>> performed by QEMU, kdump runs from *within* the guest (under a kexec'd
>>>>>> kdump kernel), and has more information about the original guest kernel
>>>>>> state (which is being dumped) than QEMU. To QEMU, the guest kernel state
>>>>>> is opaque.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For this reason, the kdump preparation logic in QEMU hardcodes a number
>>>>>> of fields in the kdump header. The direct issue is the "phys_base"
>>>>>> field. Refer to dump.c, functions create_header32(), create_header64(),
>>>>>> and "include/sysemu/dump.h", macro PHYS_BASE (with the replacement text
>>>>>> "0").
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=blob;f=dump.c;h=9c7dad8f865af3b778589dd0847e450ba9a75b9d;hb=HEAD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=blob;f=include/sysemu/dump.h;h=7e4ec5c7d96fb39c943d970d1683aa2dc171c933;hb=HEAD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This works in most cases, because the guest Linux kernel indeed tends to
>>>>>> be loaded at guest-phys address 0. However, when the guest Linux kernel
>>>>>> is booted on top of OVMF (which has a somewhat unusual UEFI memory map),
>>>>>> then the guest Linux kernel is loaded at 16MB, thereby getting out of
>>>>>> sync with the phys_base=0 setting visible in the KDUMP header.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This trips up the "crash" utility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave worked around the issue in "crash" for ELF format dumps -- "crash"
>>>>>> can identify QEMU as the originator of the vmcore by finding the QEMU
>>>>>> notes in the ELF vmcore. If those are present, then "crash" employs a
>>>>>> heuristic, probing for a phys_base up to 32MB, in 1MB steps.
>>>>>
>>>>> What advantages does KDUMP have over ELF?
>>>>
>>>> It's smaller (data is compressed), and it contains a header with some
>>>> useful information (e.g. the crashed kernel's version and release).
> 
> Another advantage is that all zero-filled pages are represented in the
> kdump file by one shared zero page.
> 
> The difference in speed of dumping is stunning.

Would you expect using SHT_NOBITS to give a similar speedup to the ELF dumper?

Thanks,
Chris

-- 
Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum,
a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-12 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-11 11:22 [Qemu-devel] uniquely identifying KDUMP files that originate from QEMU Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-11 11:46 ` Peter Maydell
2014-11-11 17:27 ` Christopher Covington
2014-11-12  8:05   ` Petr Tesarik
2014-11-12 13:18     ` Christopher Covington
2014-11-12 13:26       ` Petr Tesarik
2014-11-12 13:28         ` Christopher Covington
2014-11-12 14:36           ` Petr Tesarik
2014-11-12 14:40           ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-12 14:10         ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-12 14:48           ` Christopher Covington [this message]
2014-11-12 15:03             ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-12 15:43               ` Christopher Covington
2014-11-12 21:10                 ` Petr Tesarik
2014-11-12 14:37   ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found] ` <20141111130913.11eec0a3@hananiah.suse.cz>
     [not found]   ` <20141112.120838.303682123986142686.d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]     ` <20141112090441.3ee42632@hananiah.suse.cz>
     [not found]       ` <546373B8.70103@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <20141112194325.246ff381@hananiah.suse.cz>
2014-11-12 20:30           ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-11-12 20:41             ` Dave Anderson
2014-11-12 21:21               ` [Qemu-devel] [Crash-utility] " Dave Anderson
2014-11-12 21:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " Petr Tesarik

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