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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: lvivier@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com, pkrempa@redhat.com,
	berrange@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kraxel@redhat.com, mreitz@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:11:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54637ad5-0662-24ea-d738-1d53e054a103@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201202173506.GH16765@merkur.fritz.box>

On 02/12/20 18:35, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Could we have an intermediate state that doesn't require any
>> duplication and thus have no separate code paths that could
>> diverge?
> 
> The one requirement we have for an intermediate state is that it
> supports both interfaces: The well-know create/set properties/realize
> dance, and a new DeviceClass method, say .create(), that takes the
> configuration in parameters instead of relying on previously set
> properties.
> 
> I assumed two separate implementations of transferring the configuration
> into the internal state. On second thought, this assumption is maybe
> wrong.
> 
> You can implement the new method as wrapper around the old way: It could
> just set all the properties and call realize. Of course, you don't win
> much in terms of improving the class implementation this way, but just
> support the new interface, but I guess it can be a reasonable
> intermediate step to resolve complicated dependencies etc.

I sketched something at https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/QOM-QAPI_integration.

The main difference with what we discussed so far is that it doesn't 
subsume the complete/realize step, only the setting of properties.  The 
idea is that user_creatable_add_type does the following:

- calls an oc->configure method on every superclass of the object

- takes what's left of the input visitor and uses it to set properties

- then calls ucc->complete

So in the end the only new step is the first.  If the first two steps 
are bundled in a new function object_configure, they can be reused for 
devices, machines and accelerators.

The QAPI code generator can also easily wrap them into a C API for QOM 
object creation.

I glossed completely over the generation of properties within the QAPI 
code generator.  Making properties read-only (or, in the 
field-properties world, having a default allow_set of "return false") is 
already a nice improvement over

> It would be much nicer to do the wrapper the other way round, i.e.
> setting properties before the device is realized would update a
> configuration struct and realize would then call .create() with that
> struct. To me, this sounds much harder, though also a more useful state.

This sounds much harder.  However, based on the RngEgd sample, going 
from a basic QAPI struct to a full conversion is not too hard and makes 
code shorter.  So it's win-win even though it's human work.

Paolo



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-03 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30 12:25 [PATCH 00/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for iothread Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 15:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 15:54     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for authz-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for cryptodev-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 04/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for dbus-vmstate Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 05/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for memory-backend-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 06/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for rng-*, deprecate 'opened' Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 07/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for throttle-group Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 08/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for secret*, deprecate 'loaded' Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 09/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for tls-*, " Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for can-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for colo-compare Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 12/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for filter-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 13/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for pr-manager-helper Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 14/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for sev-guest Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 15/18] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for input-* Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 16/18] tests: Drop 'props' from object-add calls Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 17/18] qapi/qom: Drop deprecated 'props' from object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 12:25 ` [PATCH 18/18] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 14:58 ` [PATCH 00/18] " Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 15:30   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-30 16:13     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 16:52       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-30 16:32     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01  8:36       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-30 15:46   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 16:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 18:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-30 19:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 16:20           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-01 17:16             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 18:28               ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-01 19:35               ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-01 21:23                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 22:08                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02  9:30                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 10:38                       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 12:30                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 12:51                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 13:26                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-02 13:54                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 15:17                             ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 16:05                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 17:35                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 19:45                                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03  6:46                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-12-03 14:58                                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 11:11                                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-12-03 15:15                                     ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-03 16:50                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 17:43                                         ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-03 18:01                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 17:52                                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-03 18:10                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-03 18:19                                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-02 10:27                   ` Kevin Wolf
2020-12-02 12:41                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-30 18:58 ` Peter Krempa

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