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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Mark Burton <mark.burton@greensocs.com>
Cc: mttcg@listserver.greensocs.com,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"KONRAD Frédéric" <fred.konrad@greensocs.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Lluís Vilanova" <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] target-arm: protect cpu_exclusive_*.
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:55:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <549306F9.2010505@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5492ED45.5040300@suse.de>



On 18/12/2014 16:05, Alexander Graf wrote:
> Yeah, the semantics should be tied to what TM would give you. We can
> always be more safe than TM in our fallback implementation, but I
> wouldn't want to see semantic optimizations tied to the MMIO
> implementation put in.
> 
> This is mostly theory though, try to write the code and see where things
> fall apart, then we'll be in a much better position to rationalize on
> where to do things differently.

Yeah, this is why I think LL/SC ops for TCG are more interesting and
important than CMPXCHG.  Also because x86 doesn't have just CMPXCHG, it
also has XADD which you'd have to implement anyway as a LL/SC or CMPXCHG
loop, so CMPXCHG doesn't get you all the way.

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-18 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-16  9:13 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] target-arm: protect cpu_exclusive_* fred.konrad
2014-12-16  9:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-16  9:36   ` Frederic Konrad
2014-12-16  9:49     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-16  9:54       ` Frederic Konrad
2014-12-16 16:37 ` Peter Maydell
2014-12-17 10:27   ` Frederic Konrad
2014-12-17 10:28     ` Alexander Graf
2014-12-17 10:31       ` Mark Burton
2014-12-17 10:45         ` Alexander Graf
2014-12-17 11:12           ` Mark Burton
2014-12-17 11:18             ` Alexander Graf
2014-12-17 11:25               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-17 11:36                 ` Peter Maydell
2014-12-17 16:17                   ` Mark Burton
2014-12-17 16:27                     ` Peter Maydell
2014-12-17 16:29                       ` Mark Burton
2014-12-17 16:39                         ` Peter Maydell
2014-12-17 16:51                           ` Peter Maydell
2014-12-18  9:12                           ` Mark Burton
2014-12-18 12:24                             ` Alexander Graf
2014-12-18 12:35                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-12-18 13:28                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-12-18 13:56                               ` Mark Burton
2014-12-18 14:20                               ` Mark Burton
2014-12-18 14:44                                 ` Alexander Graf
2014-12-18 14:51                                   ` Mark Burton
2014-12-18 15:05                                     ` Alexander Graf
2014-12-18 15:09                                       ` Mark Burton
2014-12-18 16:55                                       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-12-17 15:52                 ` Mark Burton
2014-12-17 16:20                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-12-17 11:19             ` Peter Maydell

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