From: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] AIO: Reduce number of threads for 32bit hosts
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:09:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B67894.7080001@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150114140703.GI5136@noname.redhat.com>
On 01/14/15 15:07, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 14.01.2015 um 14:49 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
>>
>> On 14/01/2015 14:38, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> Well, what do you want to use it for? I thought it would only be for a
>>> one-time check where we usually end up rather than something that would
>>> be enabled in production, but maybe I misunderstood.
>> No, you didn't. Though I guess we could limit the checks to the yield
>> points. If we have BDS recursion, as in the backing file case, yield
>> points should not be far from the deepest part of the stack.
>>
>> Another possibility (which cannot be enabled in production) is to fill
>> the stack with a known 64-bit value, and do a binary search when the
>> coroutine is destroyed.
> Maybe that's the easiest one, yes.
>
>>>> I tried gathering warning from GCC's -Wstack-usage=1023 option and the
>>>> block layer does not seem to have functions with huge stacks in the I/O
>>>> path.
>>>>
>>>> So, assuming a maximum stack depth of 50 (already pretty generous since
>>>> there shouldn't be any recursive calls) a 100K stack should be pretty
>>>> much okay for coroutines and thread-pool threads.
>>> The potential problem in the block layer is long backing file chains.
>>> Perhaps we need to do something to solve that iteratively instead of
>>> recursively.
>> Basically first read stuff from the current BDS, and then "fill in the
>> blanks" with a tail call on bs->backing_file? That would be quite a
>> change, and we'd need a stopgap measure like Alex's patch in the meanwhile.
> Basically block.c would do something like get_block_status() first and
> only then call the read/write functions of the individual drivers. But
> yes, that's more a theoretical consideration at this point.
>
> I think with the 50 recursions that you calculated we should be fine in
> practice for now. I would however strongly recommend finally implementing
> a guard page for coroutine stacks before we make that change.
We could just write mprotect an excessively mapped page as guard page, no?
> Anyway, the thread pool workers aren't affected by any of this, so they
> would be the obvious first step.
Yes, ideally we would have the maximum number of threads be runtime
configurable too. That way you can adjust them to your workload.
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-14 14:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-14 0:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] AIO: Reduce number of threads for 32bit hosts Alexander Graf
2015-01-14 7:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-14 10:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-01-14 11:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-14 13:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-01-14 13:49 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-01-14 14:07 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-01-14 14:09 ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2015-01-15 10:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-01-14 14:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-02-12 15:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-02-12 15:59 ` Kevin Wolf
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