From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] qcow2: Add two more unalignment checks
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:01:51 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54BE5FCF.1020801@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150120140023.GB25265@noname.redhat.com>
On 2015-01-20 at 09:00, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 20.01.2015 um 14:49 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
>> On 2015-01-20 at 05:09, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> Am 19.01.2015 um 22:09 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
>>>> On 2015-01-19 at 16:04, Eric Blake wrote:
>>>>> On 01/19/2015 01:49 PM, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>>>> With the series adding unalignment checks and the series reworking the
>>>>>> zero cluster expansion code overlapping, the unalignment checks have not
>>>>>> been implemented in the latter code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This series fixes it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are other places which would require unalignment checks, like the
>>>>>> offsets of L1 tables, especially for snapshots; but because it would be
>>>>>> best to add these checks in the function which reads the snapshot table,
>>>>>> this would make images with broken snapshots completely unusable, which
>>>>>> is something I opted to avoid for now.
>>> That's something I noticed, too: For qemu-img check, our qcow2_open()
>>> checks may be to strict. With a corrupted snapshot table, it won't even
>>> run. Perhaps we should be laxer with some checks with BDRV_O_CHECK, and
>>> for example just set s->nb_snapshots = 0 if loading the table fails.
>>>
>>>>>> Ideally, we need to make the qcow2 repair function repair such cases,
>>>>>> but until that is done there is not much we can do about them.
>>>>> What's the best repair?
>>>> That's what I was asking myself...
>>>>
>>>>> Read the data from the unaligned location, and
>>>>> write a fresh copy into a new aligned allocation?
>>>> Maybe. Maybe there is no way of repairing them and the only way is
>>>> asking the user whether it's fine to delete the snapshot (qemu-img
>>>> check -r make_consistent_whatever_it_takes).
>>>>
>>>> Also, the question remains for every unaligned data structure: L2
>>>> tables, data clusters… The refcount structures are the only ones
>>>> that can be easily recovered. For data clusters, reading from the
>>>> unaligned location would probably be best; for L2 tables… maybe the
>>>> same, then run a consistency check on the data and if it seems off™,
>>>> throw the whole L2 table away.
>>> Reading from the unaligned location doesn't help. I have never seen an
>>> image whose L2 entries contained valid entries, except for the least
>>> significant few bits. If your table is corrupted, it's usually garbage
>> >from start to end.
>>
>> Probably so.
>>
>>> I think the only sane option is to drop the entries. The big question
>>> is what should be used to replace them.
>> /dev/random of course. There is a chance we are correct…
>>
>> Seriously speaking, well, unmap them? Zero clusters don't feel right to me.
> Actually, I have a feeling that zero clusters are better because they
> are obviously wrong when you debug a problem in the guest. Falling back
> to the backing file may result in patterns that don't look obviously
> corrupted, or even expose information to users that shouldn't have
> permission to read it.
That's a good point. Very well then, we only need to remember this
thread when we get to the implementation of all this...
Max
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-20 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-19 20:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] qcow2: Add two more unalignment checks Max Reitz
2015-01-19 20:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] " Max Reitz
2015-01-19 20:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] iotests: Add tests for more corruption cases Max Reitz
2015-01-19 21:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] qcow2: Add two more unalignment checks Eric Blake
2015-01-19 21:09 ` Max Reitz
2015-01-20 10:09 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-01-20 13:49 ` Max Reitz
2015-01-20 14:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-01-20 14:01 ` Max Reitz [this message]
2015-01-22 18:04 ` Kevin Wolf
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